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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / January 2005

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YT - 08 Jan 2005 22:37 GMT
Hi,

I'm new in the subject of Ferrari's.

I've been looking to buy a Testarossa. But what troubles me is the cost of
maintenance. Can anyone give me any idea.

Lots of thanks

Yves
LIW - 08 Jan 2005 23:38 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Yves

Depends on where you are and which model you purchase.

Generally speaking, in California USA the basic minimum quote for an engine
out major service (30,000 miles or X years) is $7,000 USD.   Clutch
replacement is around every 20,000 miles at $2,500 or so.    Rear tires are
known to wear out quickly, and brakes as the vehicle is heavy, and torque
laden.

Electronics are reputedly fairly stable and reliable, if that word can be
used.

Catalytic converters are reputed to burn in later years.

My mechanic advises that if one is looking for a reliable model, the 328 in
later years is reliable, and running costs aren't too high.

Also, on the Testarossa, look for leather to have lifted, or shrunk in the
interior, bolster wear, and so on.
YT - 09 Jan 2005 09:26 GMT
LIW,

Thanks

I live in Europe.

Another question : I wanted to buy a car like that as I future
oldtimer/classic + the fact that it has always been a dream. Now I've been
into restoring cars for ages now and I know my way around cars.... can
someone with reasonable mechanical experience do his own maintenance ?
I've found some company in the US that is selling workshop manuals for these
cars. So that should help me out a lott.

Thanks again.

Yves

> > Hi,
> >
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> Also, on the Testarossa, look for leather to have lifted, or shrunk in the
> interior, bolster wear, and so on.
LIW - 09 Jan 2005 20:34 GMT
> LIW,
>
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>
> Thanks again.

I don't know.  If you are used to pulling engines outto do tune ups, I
suppose so.  I haven't pulled an engine since the 60s, so I rely solely on
mechanics.  I'd be more tempted to work on my own 328 than a Testarossa, but
there are others here that know much more than I do, or you could ask this
question at Ferrari.chat.
Paul Duffin - 09 Jan 2005 20:55 GMT
> or you could ask this question at Ferrari.chat.

What?? and get nothing but friendly expert advice from people
who know what they're talking about???

How dull!

Stick around here and get a bunch of offensive ill-informed
rubbish instead...

...and we're better looking here.

...and when Psycho Mike gets his connection back, it'll be much more fun.

-Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap Borland...
but I'm nicer.)

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Aaron - 09 Jan 2005 23:09 GMT
> -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap Borland...
> but I'm nicer.)

Yeah, Matt'll even help you break in your new hat...  (!)

Aaron
matt  borland - 10 Jan 2005 00:28 GMT
> > -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
> Borland...
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>
> Aaron

Hey now, I've been instructed to do so, but never
followed through. That's more MCPD's arena...

Or so the legend goes...

-Matt- "_|'''|_"
Iain Miller - 11 Jan 2005 14:57 GMT
> > -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
>> Borland...
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>
> Or so the legend goes...

Hats off to you for that one (!)

I.
matt  borland - 11 Jan 2005 16:03 GMT
> > > -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
> >> Borland...
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>
> I.

Ever think the A.A.F. t-shirt should have the logo
on the front and a big "GFYH" on the back?

Just a thought...

-Matt- "GFYH(tm) trademark of MCPD."
Iain Miller - 12 Jan 2005 09:57 GMT
>> > > -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
>> >> Borland...
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>
> -Matt- "GFYH(tm) trademark of MCPD."

P'raps we also need to change the name of this newsgroup to a.a.f.gfyh ??
(Might keep the trolls out!)

I.
matt  borland - 12 Jan 2005 15:16 GMT
> >> > > -Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
> >> >> Borland...
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>
> I.

...but the types that might attract...?

*shudder*

-Matt- "..."
Iain Miller - 12 Jan 2005 18:15 GMT
>> P'raps we also need to change the name of this newsgroup to a.a.f.gfyh ??
>> (Might keep the trolls out!)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> *shudder*

Good point, well brought out (!)

I.
TigerRace1 - 11 Jan 2005 06:23 GMT
<<-Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap Borland...
but I'm nicer.)>>

Hey! What about me?

C.
Iain Miller - 11 Jan 2005 14:56 GMT
> <<-Paul (the nice one.... well, OK, T308 is nice too. And that chap
> Borland...
> but I'm nicer.)>>
>
> Hey! What about me?

....errrr, what about you???

I.

(Ducking, running & legging it over the horizon!)
Iain Miller - 09 Jan 2005 22:20 GMT
> LIW,
>
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>
> Thanks again.

Realistically you'd need access to a lift. If I am not mistaken when you
take the engine out you have to drop it out the bottom.

I.
coco - 15 Jan 2005 21:07 GMT
In France, few people buy Testarossa because V12 is expensive. For me, it is
the worst Ferrari to buy and drive every week end... Only to drive one time
per month...
It depends of your budget. But think to 348 who is a recent and good car,
only 8 cylinders who is able to be driven for lot of kms without problems.
But buy a car less than 30000 kms.

>> LIW,
>>
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>
> I.
Iain Miller - 21 Jan 2005 18:02 GMT
> Realistically you'd need access to a lift. If I am not mistaken when you
> take the engine out you have to drop it out the bottom.

>> In France, few people buy Testarossa because V12 is expensive. For me, it
>> is the worst Ferrari to buy and drive every week end... Only to drive one
>> time per month...
>>It depends of your budget. But think to 348 who is a recent and good car,
>>only 8 cylinders who is able to be driven for lot of kms without problems.
>>But buy a car less than 30000 kms.

Which also requires you to drop the engine to change the belts etc....

Better yet a late, low mileage, 328. Much less money to run.....
Paul Duffin - 21 Jan 2005 23:47 GMT
> Better yet a late, low mileage, 328. Much less money to run.....

'specially if you keep it to under 5 miles per annum.

Paul
P.S. We owe you dinner (I'd add that we owe you some decent wine,
but it would break us financially  ;-)
Iain Miller - 24 Jan 2005 10:38 GMT
>> Better yet a late, low mileage, 328. Much less money to run.....
>
> 'specially if you keep it to under 5 miles per annum.

Phthpppppppppppppt !!!

> P.S. We owe you dinner

No you don't but I'll take the deal anyway!

>(I'd add that we owe you some decent wine,

I'll drink anything, me ! Akshually, to be more exact, after far too much
Stroh Rum up the mountain in Oshtria last week I'm not really drinking very
much at the moment!

>but it would break us financially  ;-)

With that I can sympathise......

I.
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 27 Jan 2005 14:14 GMT
>I'll drink anything, me ! Akshually, to be more exact, after far too much
>Stroh Rum up the mountain in Oshtria last week I'm not really drinking very
>much at the moment!

Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
flammable label and all...

<homersimpson>

Hmmmnn... Stroh's...

</>
Iain Miller - 27 Jan 2005 18:11 GMT
> Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
> flammable label and all...
>
> <homersimpson>
>
> Hmmmnn... Stroh's...

Indeed, you'd think that as one approached 40 one wouldn't drink several
shots of Stroh 60 (on top of lord knows what else) and then try & get on a
sledge and ride it 5 miles down a mountain in the dark.....then again....
:-)

I.
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 27 Jan 2005 21:28 GMT
>> Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
>> flammable label and all...
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>Indeed, you'd think that as one approached 40 one wouldn't drink several
>shots of Stroh 60 (on top of lord knows what else)

I like it on top of whole cubes of ice, myself.  Love that
butterscotchey finish.

>and then try & get on a
>sledge and ride it 5 miles down a mountain in the dark.....then again....
>:-)

Hell, that's just about why I'm nursing a blown-out knee this week.
(...No Stroh's though.)
Iain Miller - 27 Jan 2005 22:13 GMT
>>> Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
>>> flammable label and all...
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hell, that's just about why I'm nursing a blown-out knee this week.
> (...No Stroh's though.)

My sympathies - we survived but for one set of bruised ribs, two knackered
backs and several other bruised backsides. Me, I can't really remember a
thing about it - I remember getting on my Rhodle (sledge) at the top and
various bits of high speed (and very fluid!) travel down the hill (but not 5
miles worth - and it surely is that far!).  I remember stopping somewhere
round the middle & phoning my Missus to say I was still alive but that we
seemed to have lost a couple of people and I remember getting to the end and
giving the Rhodle  back again....but apart from that and a bruise on my arse
I can't seem to recall very much else as to what happened in between
really - except that it was all very, VERY funny!

I.
Paul Duffin - 27 Jan 2005 23:35 GMT
>except that it was all very, VERY funny!

Hey! doze Cray-zee dutch!  Rock an rolllll!
Iain Miller - 28 Jan 2005 08:49 GMT
>>except that it was all very, VERY funny!

Not forgetting the fact that in reality

<Roly on>

We were very, VERY drunk ! yeeaaazzz

> Hey! doze Cray-zee dutch!  Rock an rolllll!

All oveer jyour faish !!

I.
matt  borland - 28 Jan 2005 04:24 GMT
> >> Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
> >> flammable label and all...
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Hell, that's just about why I'm nursing a blown-out knee this week.
> (...No Stroh's though.)

Wait wait wait, isn't this off topic? Where's the ranting
from the purist? I see no advice being offered here! Your
knee has nothing to do with Ferrari!

Never mind, seeing you connecting with other people
without being condescending is so refreshing I'll just
stop stirring the pot now. Just try to keep this in mind
when you decide to start being a prick again, would you?

-Matt- "OT..."
Harold Adrian Russell Philby - 28 Jan 2005 13:33 GMT
>"Harold Adrian Russell Philby" <home.office@kremlin.co.ru> wrote in message
>> >> Great stuff that, a special order item in my local shop, big red
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>stop stirring the pot now. Just try to keep this in mind
>when you decide to start being a prick again, would you?

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