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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / March 2005F1 a-comin!
It ws kind of funny, I was watching Wind Tunnel last night, and they did a quick "how do you think XXXX is going to do" re: F1. Of course, like every year, his English analyst/expert cited several teams that could unseat Ferrari, most notably Williams. (With Webber and Heidfeld? Fat chance.) I thought their car looked great - but it would be better, of course, if they won not a single race. Nothing about McLaren, that I heard, but I feel the same way about them - I wish Raikkonen would just go open a hair salon on a fjord wall somewhere and be gone. And then there was Villeneuve in the new Sauber. I think he's really Christian Slater - which would explain his crumbling skills behind the wheel. And now for: "How is it REALLY pronounced?" Dave Despain repeatedly pronounced Scuderia "Skoo-der-EEE-uh". I believe it's pronounced "Skoo-DARE-ee-uh". Let the games begin, but how about a definitive answer eventually? MC  SignatureWhen the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. Hunter S. Thompson "Lugo Abratte" <abratte@24heures.com> wrote in message > And now for: "How is it REALLY pronounced?" Dave Despain repeatedly > pronounced Scuderia "Skoo-der-EEE-uh". I believe it's pronounced [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > MC I say it like Dave. Sorry, I don't have the definitive answer. -Matt- "..." >And now for: "How is it REALLY pronounced?" Dave Despain repeatedly >pronounced Scuderia "Skoo-der-EEE-uh". I believe it's pronounced >"Skoo-DARE-ee-uh". I go with Dave's pronunciation. In Italian each syllable ends with a vowel and in general the accent is on the next to last syllable. The quick and easy guide to pronouncing Italian words I've used is this: As opposed to English, Italian is a very easy language to pronounce. The rules are simple: 1) Pronounce every letter 2) All vowels are pronounced the same: a is pronounced like "ah" e is pronouned like "eh" as in "they" i is pronounced like eeee as in "pizza" o is pronounced just like it sounds "oh" u is pronounced like "ooh" as in "boot" 3) Syllables end with vowels unless there is a double consonant. 4) Doubled consonants split 5) "g" is pronounced like the "j" in jello 6) Two special sounds: gn is pronounced like the spanish tilde-N as in bagno gli is pronounced like glee with a very soft "g" 7) "c" is pronounced like "k" or "ch" 8) "ch" is always pronounced like "k" The Italian alphabet only has 21 letters. It is missing J, K, W, X, Y So... Ferrari is pronounced "Feh rah ree" not "Fur rar ree" Modena is pronounced "Moe deh nah" Mugello is pronounced "Moo jel lo" Check out this site for much more detail: http://italian.about.com/homework/italian/library/fare/blfarehome.htm Todd Seattle,WA '86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car) 259,000 miles '87 Golf, Polar Silver. (boring work car) 507,000 miles <- Yeah, baby! http://www.pureluckdesign.com <-Ferrari & VW stuff > The quick and easy guide to pronouncing Italian words I've > used is this: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Modena is pronounced "Moe deh nah" > Mugello is pronounced "Moo jel lo" Todd - First let me say that it's great to see a post from you after a bit of an absence (at least to me, I was gone awhile too). But, with all due props for giving it a shot, that has to be the absolutely most confusing "quick and easy" language guide I've ever seen. "All vowels are pronounced the same". ??????? 5 thru 8 were OK. This reminds me of the time we had the argument about spaghetti sauce being called "gravy". :-) M SignatureWhen the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. Hunter S. Thompson <<"All vowels are pronounced the same". ???????>> Meaning that an A is always pronounced the same way, as "ah". O is always pronounced the say way, as "oh". Extra. As opposed to how vowels have various pronunciations in English. For instance, A is pronounced differently in all these words: Ant About Ferrari C. Abratte wrote: <<"All vowels are pronounced the same". ???????>> Meaning that an A is always pronounced the same way, as "ah". O is always pronounced the say way, as "oh". As opposed to how vowels have various pronunciations in English. For instance, A is pronounced differently in all these words: Cat Fairy About C. > It ws kind of funny, I was watching Wind Tunnel last night, and they did > a quick "how do you think XXXX is going to do" re: F1. Of course, like [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > MC "Skoo-der-EEE-uh" is the way I've always heard it. Second to last syllable gets the emphasis in Italian. tee-three-OH-eight > "Skoo-der-EEE-uh" is the way I've always heard it. Second to last > syllable gets the emphasis in Italian. My 2 cents from a Latin European (not Italian though) : "Skoo-derr-EEE-ah" would be the correct pronunciation. SignatureJ.C. new F1 site with news in 5 lenguage www.motorian.it >> "Skoo-der-EEE-uh" is the way I've always heard it. Second to last >> syllable gets the emphasis in Italian. > > My 2 cents from a Latin European (not Italian though) : > "Skoo-derr-EEE-ah" would be the correct pronunciation. >> It ws kind of funny, I was watching Wind Tunnel last night, and they did >> a quick "how do you think XXXX is going to do" re: F1. Of course, like [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >"Skoo-der-EEE-uh" is the way I've always heard it. Second to last >syllable gets the emphasis in Italian. But not so stiffly Anglo-Saxony. ...It is *la*bella*lingua*, after all. I remember team members and representatives saying "sku-deh-rEE-ah". >tee-three-OH-eight ...Tee tre-oh-(oh-too), shirley? F2004: 15 of 17* wrote:>> tee-three-OH-eight > ...Tee tre-oh-(oh-too), shirley? ...Tee tray-oh-toe (rather than 'too') innit? -MC Pow-low D Talking of which, how do you say the numbers? Do I own "three oh eight" (my preference), a "three zero eight" or a "Three hundred and eight" ? (the latter, of course, being the correct translation of the Italian, and what the French use... ...but in French, obviously ;-). 328s are often "Three two eights" or "Three twenty eights". Similar nomenclature applies to 348s and 355s over here, ...but whilst a "Three sixty" is common, I never hear "Three six oh" or "three six zero" (perhaps I simply don't have enough rich friends). What's the preference in the US of A? MCPD ...God(s) we are bored today, aren't we? > Talking of which, how do you say the numbers? > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > MCPD > ...God(s) we are bored today, aren't we? In the US of A it's usually as follows: Three oh eight Three twenty eight Three forty eight Three fifty five Three sixty "Mo-DEE-na" (probably not technically correct, but it's how most Americans I've spoken with say it) As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" around plenty of Americans with the same last name but it seems that most of the time they (those with that last name) pronounce it "shoe maker". In the midwest, at least... My opinion on the FIAT logo controversy is that it looks kinda scrawled on there with crayon now, whereas before I could have mistaken it for a telecommunications firm or something, meaning it blended in better before. Doesn't bother me much the way it is now being that Ferrari owes it's continued existence to FIAT's help over the years. -Matt- "..." matt borland wrote: > As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" > around plenty of Americans with the same last name but it seems > that most of the time they (those with that last name) pronounce it > "shoe maker". In the midwest, at least... > -Matt- "..." What do you expect from the midwest? Can you say, po-dunk? I knew you could. MC (laughing, because if you could see some of the tobacco-chewin, big-hat-and-fleece-lined-jeans-jacket-wearin chuck steaks here in Prescott Valley, you'd think I was in North Dakota! These guys couldn't spell their name if it was painted on their windshield. Yesterday I walked up to the ATM at B of A and found that the cornpone who'd just walked away left the machine at "Do you want another transaction?". A minor ($300)crime could easily have been committed, but I knew I'd get caught eventually, not to mention the bad karma bath. So I ended the trans. and gave the receipt slip and card to the bank manager. It was a business account with $14,000 in it. What a yay-hoo.) (Wait a minute. *I* have a fleece-lined jeans jacket ....) :-( M SignatureWhen the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. Hunter S. Thompson >matt borland wrote: >> As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I knew you could. While waiting for my flight out of Indy ("the only thing to do should one find oneself there" - Groucho) after the 2003 GP, I spied a rather proud display of _Why Hoosiers Can't Pronounce "Indianapolis"_... I don't believe it was supposed to be ironic. ...After relentlessly badmouthing that town, it really is execrable, and vowing to never go back, I might have to this year if I'm to take in a GP in the style to which I have become accustomed. How is crow most palatably prepared? > >matt borland wrote: > >> As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > in a GP in the style to which I have become accustomed. How is crow > most palatably prepared? With a good friend??? ;-) -Bob >> ...After relentlessly badmouthing that town, it really is execrable, >> and vowing to never go back, I might have to this year if I'm to take >> in a GP in the style to which I have become accustomed. How is crow >> most palatably prepared? > >With a good friend??? ...No doubt Martha will have a show devoted to preparing crow banquets, shortly. You've traveled Gonzo Tours before... This year is the most stochastic yet. Seems to depend upon the trout spawning habits in a small stream in Montana. News as it develops. (All that is known so far: I'm not going to Indy if MTL is an option.) << How is crow most palatably prepared?>> The way you're always chewing on the scenery, I wouldn't expect you to have a particularly delicate palate. C. > >matt borland wrote: > >> As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > in a GP in the style to which I have become accustomed. How is crow > most palatably prepared? I'll be there, maybe I'll bring some from home. ;-) It'll be great, we can throw rocks at each other, it'll be just like old times... -Matt- "..." > >matt borland wrote: > >> As an F1 aside, I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > one find oneself there" - Groucho) after the 2003 GP, I spied a rather > proud display of _Why Hoosiers Can't Pronounce "Indianapolis"_... Isn't it amazing that the Indy AP is always such a cluster *uck? I mean, they have three big days a year and you'd think that nobody ever flew out of the place before. What a nightmare... > I don't believe it was supposed to be ironic. > > ...After relentlessly badmouthing that town, it really is execrable, > and vowing to never go back, I might have to this year if I'm to take > in a GP in the style to which I have become accustomed. How is crow > most palatably prepared? Crow is what passes for fine dining in Indy. T308 (Who thinks that the only redeeming feature of the USGP are my last row tickets in stand H) >> While waiting for my flight out of Indy ("the only thing to do should >> one find oneself there" - Groucho) after the 2003 GP, I spied a rather [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mean, they have three big days a year and you'd think that nobody ever >flew out of the place before. What a nightmare... I haven't experienced that, but then I've always stayed over till a Monday departure. >> I don't believe it was supposed to be ironic. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Crow is what passes for fine dining in Indy. I'd kill for a decent crow restaurant in Indy. >(Who thinks that the only redeeming feature of the USGP are my last row >tickets in stand H) I gave up Paddock Club/garage last year, before I knew I couldn't attend MTL, it just wasn't worth the ignominy of Indiana. <<In the US of A it's usually as follows>> Agreed. <<Three sixty "Mo-DEE-na" (probably not technically correct, but it's how most Americans I've spoken with say it)>> I've heard that and the correct pronunciation as well. Seems a 50/50 kinda thing around the country. <<I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" around plenty of Americans with the same last name but it seems that most of the time they (those with that last name) pronounce it "shoe maker". Whenever I hear "Shoemaker" I think Willie. Another one of the all time greats. Highly ironic that he was always known for having "soft hands." How 'bout Schuey vs Schumi? <<In the midwest, at least...>> My Midwestern transplant pronounces it correctly. <g> C. "Tiger Racing" <TigerRace1@aol.com> wrote in message > How 'bout Schuey vs Schumi? A friend of mine with that last name is "Schuey", but MS to me will always be "Schumi". > <<In the midwest, at least...>> > > My Midwestern transplant pronounces it correctly. <g> > > C. Well, he would... :-) -Matt- "..." <<MS to me will always be "Schumi".>> That's how I feel. C. > <<In the US of A it's usually as follows>> > > Agreed. > > <<Three sixty "Mo-DEE-na" (probably not technically correct, but it's > how most Americans I've spoken with say it)>> I've always said mod-En-uh. Not that it's correct, that's just the way I say it! > I've heard that and the correct pronunciation as well. Seems a 50/50 > kinda thing around the country. > > <<I've pronounced Schumacher "SHOO-mah-ker" around plenty of Americans > with the same last name but it seems that most of the time they (those > with that last name) pronounce it "shoe maker". Or the Bob Constanduros special "MEE-kail Schu-MA-cher". > Whenever I hear "Shoemaker" I think Willie. Another one of the all time > greats. Highly ironic that he was always known for having "soft hands." One of my all time favorite people. Tho' if you ever shook hands with the man you'd never have accused him of being soft! Having grown up working the BR ice cream store next to Santa Anita and then at the track itself I saw a lot of him (and his 6 foot tall wife!) over the years. He was one of the few jocks who could eat ice cream without worry. A natural lightweight. Laffite Pincay on the other hand could only get a small taste spoon for fear of going over weight. The man could teach you something about enjoying your food. He'd take the taste spoon with about 1/8 oz of ice cream on it and enjoy and savor each and every morsel of it and it'd take him about five minutes to finish it off. A couple of years later I was in the Jocks room and there was Laffite with a bag of peanuts, from the bag he took out one peanut. He opened the peanut and took out one of the nuts. He then split the nut. He took half the peanut and then put it in his mouth and tiped his head back and had a look on his face much like Duffin with a mouthful of the finest Châteauneuf-du-Pape. Wait a minute, how'd we get on this topic? Sorry.... > How 'bout Schuey vs Schumi? SCHUMI! > <<In the midwest, at least...>> > > My Midwestern transplant pronounces it correctly. <g> Which one's that? Dad or Omaha boy?? T308 <<Laffite Pincay on the other hand could only get a small taste spoon for fear of going over weight. The man could teach you something about enjoying your food.>> I wish someone would. <<SCHUMI!>> We must be right then. <<Which one's that? Dad or Omaha boy??>> The only thing Midwestern about dad is his work ethic. C. > <<Laffite Pincay on the other hand could only get a small taste spoon > for fear of going over weight. The man could teach you something about [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > C. I consider the great lakes states to be mid west as well. Isn't he from Wisconsin?? T Lat 3.0 Long 8 << I consider the great lakes states to be mid west as well. Isn't he from Wisconsin>> Yup. Didn't mean that dad's not physically from the Midwest. I just meant that the only Midwestern part of his personality is his work ethic. As opposed to my Crew Chief who is a small town boy thru and thru. C. > As opposed to my Crew Chief who is a small town boy thru and > thru. And what a jolly nice fellow he is! don't you go dissin' us small town boys. -MCPD >>As opposed to my Crew Chief who is a small town boy thru and >>thru. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -MCPD And when will "Midwestern-Smalltown Crew Chief" start posting here? We need more participants! T308 >>As opposed to my Crew Chief who is a small town boy thru and >>thru. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -MCPD You handled yourself pretty well in London town. You didn't seem like a small town boy. As a matter of fact, you seemed very "Metrosexual" to me.. T308 (Who can't get the friggin' Pet Shop Boys' song out of his head....) <<And what a jolly nice fellow he is! don't you go dissin' us small town boys.>> Who did a I *dis*? But you're no *small town* boy, you're British. Euro, even! The only small town I saw in Europe had a world famous race track in the middle of it. C. > > Talking of which, how do you say the numbers? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Three fifty five Maybe in "your" US of A, but in "My" US of A it's Three Five Five T3 oh forget it... (And don't even get me started on the F355 vs 355 deal....)
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