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There's actually a race this weekend, in which Ferrari has entered two REAL race cars!!! [We now return you to your original programming...] "...So I was rogering 'MY CREW CHIEF', with a Johnson Rod from the 'world's MOST EXPENSIVE' tampon dispenser"... > There's actually a race this weekend, in which Ferrari has entered two > REAL race cars!!! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "...So I was rogering 'MY CREW CHIEF', with a Johnson Rod from the > 'world's MOST EXPENSIVE' tampon dispenser"... Still such a class act after all these years... Maybe you should start your own newsgroup. There are still plenty of Ferrari titles available. Just a thought. -Matt- "..." >> There's actually a race this weekend, in which Ferrari has entered two >> REAL race cars!!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Still such a class act after all these years... Hit a nerve again, did I? >Maybe you should start your own newsgroup. There >are still plenty of Ferrari titles available. > >Just a thought. ...And forgo the brilliant wit and fathomless insight of alt.autos.ferrari? ...[Pish] > Hit a nerve again, did I? C is our friend. We don't like you attacking her - it really is as simple as that. It probably doesn't even scratch her armour, but it most certainly irritates us. Kindly cease. -Paul >> Hit a nerve again, did I? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Kindly cease. I too have stuck by people only because they were "friends", it's an admirable quality, if regrettable sometimes, in the end. >>> Hit a nerve again, did I? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I too have stuck by people only because they were "friends", it's an > admirable quality, if regrettable sometimes, in the end. But that isn't any reason to be making personal attacks on people. I'd love to see you try it to her face. Its fine to make your cowardly insults from behind a screen but I've no doubt in person you'd be a quivering wreck. If you wouldn't do it to someone's face don't do it all. Agreed. The internet brings out true cowards like F2005. Most of us simply keep in touch via email since this Assclown trolls the group so much. > Agreed. The internet brings out true cowards like F2005. Most of us > simply keep in touch via email since this Assclown trolls the group so > much. Wait a minute!! Unless you're somebody else we already know under another name, most of me wants to say there aren't enough regulars in this group to "simply keep in touch via email since this Assclown trolls the group so much". "Most of us"???? Please. C'mon. I'm not much of a peacemaker these days, not that I ever was. But haven't you ever been in a group where if somebody bothered you you just ignored them? Are there so many other regular posters swimming around in here that in reality this NG consists of sublevels of happy-clique-people conversation emailing away beneath the banal-though-hostile surface of the group? Give me a break. Mark needs no defense from me (and probably wouldn't get one much of the time either - he can hold his own). But I've been pretty much connected to this group for a few years, and I don't recall the volumes of posting you laid in so that you could now climb the mountaintop and proclaim (not that that's required, please). Unless you're a reg in the F1 group, where I understand Mark both holds court and invites *and* dispenses universal disdain (no mean feat), you can't really be offering such a sweeping dis with any validity, can you? With all due respect, AR, to be sure. I've enjoyed your posting, and I hope nothing from me would make you cease doing so. The friction between folks here is part of what helps this group keep its considerable edge, slight posting activity levels notwithstanding. That's the sign of a group of fairly intelligent people, if you think about it. The groups with millions of screaming, stupidity-steeped posts are the ones I avoid.  SignatureMC i can't shake this feeling from my head there's a devil sleeping in my bed he's watching you from across the way i cannot make this feeling go away i know it's not the right thing and i know it's not the good thing kinda i want to kinda i want to snippy snippy... >The groups with millions of screaming, stupidity-steeped > posts are the ones I avoid. You mean groups like RASF1? T308 (Former RASF1 participant) >Agreed. The internet brings out true cowards like F2005. ...Shut up. >Most of us >simply keep in touch via email since this Assclown trolls the group so >much. Shouldn't you be out buying bigger rims for your "supercar"? >>>> Hit a nerve again, did I? >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >behind a screen but I've no doubt in person you'd be a quivering wreck. If >you wouldn't do it to someone's face don't do it all. I'll be at the Scarsdale Concours Sunday, noonish, if it doesn't rain: Come see if I suffer haughty silver-spoonfed boors any better IRL. >>>>> Hit a nerve again, did I? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I'll be at the Scarsdale Concours Sunday, noonish, if it doesn't rain: > Come see if I suffer haughty silver-spoonfed boors any better IRL. Why bother going? I'd suggest using your time to go to a plastic surgeon instead to get that massive chip on your shoulder removed. >>>>>> Hit a nerve again, did I? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Why bother going? I'd suggest using your time to go to a plastic surgeon >instead to get that massive chip on your shoulder removed. ...A simple, if common, mistake. > Come see if I suffer haughty silver-spoonfed boors any better IRL. /on Val/ I'm your huckleberry .... /off Val/ Then again, I'm no haughty silver-spoonfed boor. SignatureMC "That's pretty EXCESSIVE!" - Ralph Sheheen >> Come see if I suffer haughty silver-spoonfed boors any better IRL. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >/off Val/ ...Like an SR-71: Right over my head. >Then again, I'm no haughty silver-spoonfed boor. Do me a favor: Pray for rain, so we don't get it here... >>>Come see if I suffer haughty silver-spoonfed boors any better IRL. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Do me a favor: Pray for rain, so we don't get it here... We got some rain today. Watch the movie "Tombstone". One of the great cinematic lines ever uttered. Please don't tell me you only watch "Gosford Park" and old Fellini movies. SignatureMC "That's pretty EXCESSIVE!" - Ralph Sheheen >> Do me a favor: Pray for rain, so we don't get it here... >> >We got some rain today. Thank you, we only got a shower. The Scarsdale Concours unexpectedly nice [a Miura SV!], lots of old Astons including a *Zagato-bodied DB4, a DB5, and several V-8 coupes showing the progress of the model over the years; lots of Lamborghini - 350GT, *Miura SV, Countach 5000S, Diablo and [spits] Gallardo. From photographs I had seen I had really liked the look of the baby Lambo, but in the flesh it's a Female East German Swimmer - bulges and muscles in all the *wrong* places. A ton of Jag-based new Astons (the DB7 is a POS [genuinely your father's {30-yr old} POS Jaguar], but they sure are pretty), and a POS Vanquish, but only two real Jaguar: The one they've been flogging since the mid-seventies, and a gorgeous Series 1 E-type. They had a MercLaren SLR KrapWagon, foolishly parked opposite a Porch Carrera GT, with all "the little children" ga-ga over the SLR's doors... Fittingly, the SLR sat next to a Maybach, which only weighs about 100lbs more. The Porch Carrera was very desirable in the flesh - HUGE brakes! ...Great interior, stupid engine, it didn't look so potato-like from three feet. Someone brought the only Porch I'd ever really want, a *'73 911 2.7 RS. Not so much Maserati: A dealer brought a new Quattroporte, a new Gransport (the interior Star Trek cloth doesn't look as bad as it photographs, but its still sh.t), a Merak (why bother?) and a 5spd *Khamsin (Euro spec) made it as well, bringing the total of cars I'd like to have* to about a dozen before even getting to the Stallions. ...Lots of Ferrari, including a local 212 E Vignale berlinetta, a *365 GTC in Giallo Fly, a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, a *246 GTS complete with puppy, Enzo, F50, 550 Barchetta, a fleet of 360s, a 355 Spider in blue and an "I WANT THAT ONE"-gorgeous silver-gray *250 GT Cabriolet. They even had a "Word's Most Expensive (c) AAF" Family Coupe. A 612 Scaglietti took off too early to inspect - looked BIG driving away. There were a bunch of vintage Rolls, a great range of Porchs, several vintage American cars, not so many American Muscle, and a half dozen odd-ball English POS - the three-wheeled Morgan "Whatsthat"... And maybe a Swallow SS-100, I couldn't care. Astoundingly I only overheard two excruciatingly stupid comments (this was Scarsdale, after all): One inheritocrat trying to impress his arm candy by telling her he had looked to buy the very 250 Cab sitting there, and it was going for "at least 600 thou", and a less obviously prep-schooled "gentleman" trying to impress a hooker by proclaiming the Enzo a kit car from 75yds away. ...And the rain held off until 3 and stopped at three-ten. >Watch the movie "Tombstone". One of the great cinematic lines ever >uttered. Please don't tell me you only watch "Gosford Park" and old >Fellini movies. I love La Dolce Vita, but that's probably just the chip on my shoulder talking. ...I think _Roma_ is on my Netflix queue, right behind Orgazmo. > ...Lots of Ferrari, including ..snip... a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, Did it have the "too cool" 1970s fabric seats? I love that car in darker colors (so the front bumper rubber doesn't stick out) with the "non-leather" interior. T308 >> ...Lots of Ferrari, including ..snip... a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, > >Did it have the "too cool" 1970s fabric seats? I didn't get that close, time was very pressing. >I love that car in >darker colors (so the front bumper rubber doesn't stick out) with the >"non-leather" interior. Silver, red, maroon, blue... Anything but black. Seriously: Anyone who would paint an Italian car black should be sentenced to driving a '70s Volvo wagon, the four-cylinder. >>>...Lots of Ferrari, including ..snip... a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Silver, red, maroon, blue... Anything but black. Very nice in Midnight Blue. http://www.vintageferrariparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp&page=car&recid=29&sh ow=detail > Seriously: Anyone who would paint an Italian car black should be > sentenced to driving a '70s Volvo wagon, the four-cylinder. I rather like my black on tan car, and though a Swede, I'd NEVER drive a Volvo. T308 > Seriously: Anyone who would paint an Italian car black should be > sentenced to driving a '70s Volvo wagon, the four-cylinder. Seriously to whom? I think BB512s look great in black; I sat in a black on black one and it was awesome. SignatureMC (not in a good mood today, sorry) "That's pretty EXCESSIVE!" - Ralph Sheheen >> Seriously: Anyone who would paint an Italian car black should be >> sentenced to driving a '70s Volvo wagon, the four-cylinder. > >Seriously to whom? I think BB512s look great in black; I sat in a black >on black one and it was awesome. Black washes out all the subtlety in the design: There's a reason magicians use black drapes, capes, clothes and sets. > They had a MercLaren SLR KrapWagon, foolishly parked opposite a Porch > Carrera GT, with all "the little children" ga-ga over the SLR's > doors... Fittingly, the SLR sat next to a Maybach, which only weighs > about 100lbs more. Yeah, I have to admit, though I like the SLR styling kind of a bit, and I liked seeing Jay Leno flog one around on Legends of Motorsport or whatever show it was, I think it is very gaudy, very Larry Ellison, and I've been up close to one. And, in Gran Turismo 4 it is a total shitwagon, hard to control and slow compared to many of the other production vehicles one can choose. I hate the Carrera GT so I could give a sh.t about it. The only Porsche I've ever REALLY liked was the 917, though I wouldn't turn down a GT2 or GT3 if offered one, but I bet I'd end up trading it for a Ferrari. > Someone brought the only Porch I'd ever really want, a *'73 911 2.7 > RS. Nice car - white and red, right? > I WANT THAT ONE"-gorgeous silver-gray *250 GT > Cabriolet. My roommate Kelly's dad had one of those. Same color. Years after he sold it, (QUITE regrettably; we don't talk about it with him), Kelly and I found it at a car show in Whittier. The owner was very nice but couldn't help saying something like "why did he sell it?" > and a less > obviously prep-schooled "gentleman" trying to impress a hooker by > proclaiming the Enzo a kit car from 75yds away. Good thing I didn't hear that. The hooker would have been long gone by the time I was finished verbally reducing him to rubble. What a fuckhead. The only Fellini movies I've ever seen were "Satyricon" and "Amarcord". It was awhile ago and I remember very little of them, but I do remember saying I wouldn't bother with any of his movies again. I'm OK with Coppola and Scorsese as far as Dago directors go. SignatureMC "That's pretty EXCESSIVE!" - Ralph Sheheen >The only Fellini movies I've ever seen were "Satyricon" and "Amarcord". > It was awhile ago and I remember very little of them, but I do >remember saying I wouldn't bother with any of his movies again. I'm OK >with Coppola and Scorsese as far as Dago directors go. As long as you consider them "Dago directors" you'll never understand Italian films. > As long as you consider them "Dago directors" you'll never understand > Italian films. Being part Italian, I can forgive him that one on the basis that he's also part Italian. ...however putting Felini and Coppola into a notional group purely on the basis of ancestry is somewhat misguided. While we're on the subject of classic Italian films, "The Bicycle Thief" (Vittorio De Sica, 1948 [or 1949 - depending on which Google result you believe]) is well worh a view. -Paul (Betting that Mark thinks it's overly-sentimental...). >> As long as you consider them "Dago directors" you'll never understand >> Italian films. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >basis of >ancestry is somewhat misguided. And yet, I didn't. ...Coppola is an American director of Italian decent. >While we're on the subject of classic Italian films, "The Bicycle Thief" >(Vittorio De Sica, 1948 [or 1949 - depending on which Google result you >believe]) >is well worh a view. > >(Betting that Mark thinks it's overly-sentimental...). ...I think Apocalypse Now is overly sentimental. >>The only Fellini movies I've ever seen were "Satyricon" and "Amarcord". >> It was awhile ago and I remember very little of them, but I do [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > As long as you consider them "Dago directors" you'll never understand > Italian films. Maybe I don't want to understand them. "Dago" is actually a fairly endearing term to a lot of Italians (maybe not you). I'm Sicilian. What I called the directors has nothing to do with my ability to appreciate films. I like Mexican films, most films from South American directors, and most French films. Italian films aren't even close in quality - as I see it. Strictly MHO. SignatureMC "That's pretty EXCESSIVE!" - Ralph Sheheen >> They had a MercLaren SLR KrapWagon, foolishly parked opposite a Porch >> Carrera GT, with all "the little children" ga-ga over the SLR's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >917, though I wouldn't turn down a GT2 or GT3 if offered one, but I bet >I'd end up trading it for a Ferrari. I couldn't give a fig about Porch, and their racing history founded on bald favoritism, but the Carrera surprised me in the flesh. It's looks like an overturned plastic wading pool in every photo I've previously seen but standing beside it the quality and care and intent were palpable. I took a picture of the wheel locks, ffs. Do I want to own one, no, but a two hour drive into ENE CT couldn't suck. (Some great little two lane roads in these parts.) >> Someone brought the only Porch I'd ever really want, a *'73 911 2.7 >> RS. > >Nice car - white and red, right? ...Yep. For sale too, I didn't have the wallet. >> I WANT THAT ONE"-gorgeous silver-gray *250 GT >> Cabriolet. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I found it at a car show in Whittier. The owner was very nice but >couldn't help saying something like "why did he sell it?" An enduring beauty, most people just walked right by it, I took half a dozen lousy pictures. >> and a less >> obviously prep-schooled "gentleman" trying to impress a hooker by >> proclaiming the Enzo a kit car from 75yds away. > >Good thing I didn't hear that. The hooker would have been long gone by >the time I was finished verbally reducing him to rubble. What a fuckhead. It could, should, have been much, much worse: The ignorant spoiled-brat quotient of Scarsdale is off the scale, and we're just 5minutes from Greenwich, CT. ...Apparently one of the organizers had a purple-faced tantrum with the local Police about removing an errantly parked Honda from the town center. >> Do me a favor: Pray for rain, so we don't get it here... >> >We got some rain today. Thank you, we only got a shower. The Scarsdale Concours was unexpectedly nice [a Miura SV, ffs!], lots of old Astons including a *Zagato-bodied DB4, a *DB5, and several *V-8 Coupes - showing the progress of the model over the years; lots of Lamborghini, 350GT, *Miura SV, Countach 5000S, Diablo and [spits] Gallardo. From photographs I had seen I had really liked the look of the baby Lambo, but in the flesh it's a Female East German Swimmer - bulges and muscles in all the *wrong* places. A ton of Jag-based new Astons (the DB7 is a POS [genuinely your father's {30-yr old} POS Jaguar], but they sure are pretty), and a POS Vanquish, but only two real Jaguar: The one they've been flogging since the mid-seventies, and a gorgeous Series 1 E-type. They had a MercLaren SLR KrapWagon, foolishly parked opposite a Porch Carrera GT, with all "the little children" going ga-ga over the SLR's doors... Fittingly, the SLR sat next to a Maybach, which only weighs about 100lbs more, and there it actually looked like the sports car it isn't. The Porch Carrera was very desirable in the flesh - HUGE brakes! ...Great interior, stupid engine, it didn't look so potato-like from three feet. Someone brought the only Porch I'd ever really want, a *'73 911 2.7 RS. Not so much Maserati: Most notably a 3500 Coupe. A dealer brought a new Quattroporte, a new Gransport (the interior Star Trek cloth doesn't look as bad as it photographs, but its still sh.t): Who the moron who paints Italian cars black? Someone brought a Merak (why?) and a 5spd *Khamsin (Euro spec) as well, must have a thing for Franco-Italian, bringing the total of cars I'd like to have* to about a dozen before even getting to the Stallions. ...Lots of Ferrari, including a local 212 E Vignale berlinetta, a *365 GTC in Giallo Fly, a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, a *246 GTS complete with puppy, Enzo, F50, 550 Berlinettas and Barchetta, a fleet of 360s, a 355 Spider in another great blue and an "I WANT THAT ONE"-gorgeous silver-gray *250 GT Cabriolet. They even had a "World's Most Expensive (c) AAF" Family Coupe. A 612 Scaglietti took off too early to inspect - looked BIG driving away. There were a bunch of vintage Rolls, a great range of Porchs, several vintage American cars, not too many American Muscle, and a half dozen odd-ball English POS - the three-wheeled Morgan "Whatsthat"... And maybe a Swallow SS-100, I couldn't care. Astoundingly I only overheard two excruciatingly stupid comments (this being Scarsdale, after all): One inheritocrat trying to impress his arm candy by telling her he had looked to buy the very 250 Cab sitting there, and it was going for "at least 600 thou", and a less obviously prep-schooled "gentleman" trying to impress a hooker by proclaiming the Enzo a kit car from 75yds away. ...And the rain held off until 3 and stopped at three-ten. >Watch the movie "Tombstone". One of the great cinematic lines ever >uttered. Please don't tell me you only watch "Gosford Park" and old >Fellini movies. I love La Dolce Vita, but that's probably just the chip on my shoulder talking. ...I think _Roma_ is on my Netflix queue, right behind Orgazmo. >> Do me a favor: Pray for rain, so we don't get it here... >> >We got some rain today. Thank you, we only got a shower. The Scarsdale Concours was unexpectedly nice [a Miura SV, ffs!], lots of old Astons including a *Zagato-bodied DB4, a *DB5, and several *V-8 Coupes - showing the progress of the model over the years; lots of Lamborghini, 350GT, *Miura SV, Countach 5000S, Diablo and [spits] Gallardo. From photographs I had seen I had really liked the look of the baby Lambo, but in the flesh it's a Female East German Swimmer - bulges and muscles in all the *wrong* places. A ton of Jag-based new Astons (the DB7 is a POS [genuinely your father's {30-yr old} POS Jaguar], but they sure are pretty), and a POS Vanquish, but only two real Jaguar: The one they've been flogging since the mid-seventies, and a gorgeous Series 1 E-type. They had a MercLaren SLR KrapWagon, foolishly parked opposite a Porch Carrera GT, with all "the little children" going ga-ga over the SLR's doors... Fittingly, the SLR sat next to a Maybach, which only weighs about 100lbs more, and there it actually looked like the sports car it isn't. The Porch Carrera was very desirable in the flesh - HUGE brakes! ...Great interior, stupid engine, it didn't look so potato-like from three feet. Someone brought the only Porch I'd ever really want, a *'73 911 2.7 RS. Not so much Maserati: Most notably a 3500 Coupe. A dealer brought a new Quattroporte, a new Gransport (the interior Star Trek cloth doesn't look as bad as it photographs, but its still sh.t): Who's the moron who paints Italian cars black? Someone brought a Merak (why?) and a 5spd *Khamsin (Euro spec) as well, must have a thing for Franco-Italian, bringing the total of cars I'd like to have* to about a dozen before even getting to the Stallions. ...Lots of Ferrari, including a local 212 E Vignale berlinetta, a *365 GTC in Giallo Fly, a stunning *GTC/4 in a great blue, a *246 GTS complete with puppy, Enzo, F50, 550 Berlinettas and Barchetta, a fleet of 360s, a 355 Spider in another great blue and an "I WANT THAT ONE"-gorgeous silver-gray *250 GT Cabriolet. They even had a "World's Most Expensive (c) AAF" Family Coupe. A 612 Scaglietti took off too early to inspect - looked BIG driving away. There were a bunch of vintage Rolls, a great range of Porchs, several vintage American cars, not too many American Muscle, and a half dozen odd-ball English POS - the three-wheeled Morgan "Whatsthat"... And maybe a Swallow SS-100, I couldn't care. Astoundingly I only overheard two excruciatingly stupid comments (this being Scarsdale, after all): One inheritocrat trying to impress his arm candy by telling her he had looked to buy the very 250 Cab sitting there, and it was going for "at least 600 thou", and a less obviously prep-schooled "gentleman" trying to impress a hooker by proclaiming the Enzo a kit car from 75yds away. ...And the rain held off until 3 and stopped at three-ten. >Watch the movie "Tombstone". One of the great cinematic lines ever >uttered. Please don't tell me you only watch "Gosford Park" and old >Fellini movies. I love La Dolce Vita, but that's probably just the chip on my shoulder talking. ...I think _Roma_ is on my Netflix queue, right behind Orgazmo.
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