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Nino Barlini - 26 May 2005 22:47 GMT
For those of you going to the Indy F1 who aren't too familiar with the
area (i.e. you don't remember the number for the Slippery Noodle Inn),
there is an excellent guide in the latest issue of RACER magazine
beginning on page 50.  (July 05, Issue #159 - I have no idea why they're
so far ahead ...)  I would be happy to clip the article and send it to
whoever is most inexperienced, but my roommate, Oscar Madison, hasn't
read it yet and once he's finished it will be deposited in one of his
slobby junk piles and become a part of ancient history.

One bit of help: the number for the Slippery Noodle Inn is 317-631-6968.
 Hoist one for me.  Hell, hoist ten for me.

M
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matt  borland - 27 May 2005 02:31 GMT
> For those of you going to the Indy F1 who aren't too familiar with the
> area (i.e. you don't remember the number for the Slippery Noodle Inn),
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> M

While I've been to Indy several times, it was for the
Mopar Nationals when I was young(er) and single,
so if nobody else asks for it I would be very interested
in the article. I only know where the marriage-unfriendly
places are... ;-)

I used to get to read RACER at my old job, but I missed
that article.

Hopefully I'll get to spend a few hours in the presence of
one T308 on the Indy trip as well. Should be a cool experience
overall.

We're meeting up with TR1 in Cleveland before the June race
so the AAF lovefest continues, just a few more people to visit
within the year I suppose...

If things play out right we'll see you too Mike, how cool is that?

I'd have never thought this would happen when joining this group
back in '98-'99...

-Matt- ".."
Nino Barlini - 27 May 2005 05:42 GMT
matt borland wrote:
> If things play out right we'll see you too Mike, how cool is that?
>
> I'd have never thought this would happen when joining this group
> back in '98-'99...

Me neither.  You don't think about stuff like that when you join a
newsgroup just based on a common love for a car.

But you won't see me in Cleveland, that's for sure.  I wouldn't go there
if I had a gun to my head.

Although, I said that about New York City, didn't I?

M

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Tiger Racing - 31 May 2005 21:58 GMT
<<But you won't see me in Cleveland, that's for sure.  I wouldn't go
there if I had a gun to my head.>>

Why not? The city isn't the most appealing one that I've heard of, but
for a weekend of racing, it ain't bad.

<<Although, I said that about New York City, didn't I?>>

Indeed.

C.
Nino Barlini - 31 May 2005 22:13 GMT
> <<But you won't see me in Cleveland, that's for sure.  I wouldn't go
> there if I had a gun to my head.>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> C.

Yes I did.  And, while watching the Mid-Ohio race I was again struck by
that beautiful in-the-distance view of the river, etc.  If nothing else,
I wouldn't mind hanging around that track.

OT     OT     OT     OT     OT     OT

What's up with McLure, btw?  Did he make a mistake switching from Vette
to Viper?

More observations: - I think Wolf Henzler might start cleaning up in
that series like he did in the Supercup series.  The guy is smooth.  I'd
like to see what he can do in a different car (different marque).

Derek Bell is really having problems with that car, especially off the
blocks.  I think it might have been a little premature for Volvo to try
and race it.

I liked seeing Heinricy in there, I have a lot of respect for what he's
done for the Corvette program and now the CTS-V program.  Plus, there's
nothing like a ringer.  Hell, Mad Max was one for awhle.

M

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matt  borland - 01 Jun 2005 02:41 GMT
"Nino Barlini" <nino@grandprix.net> wrote in message

And, while watching the Mid-Ohio race I was again struck by
> that beautiful in-the-distance view of the river, etc.  If nothing else,
> I wouldn't mind hanging around that track.

More OT OT OT OT OT........

It's a great track, plenty of good places to sit and watch the action,
easy to get nice and close. The food ain't half bad either...

I'll be driving on it in a 924S SE (with M030 sport suspension)
in a couple weeks, after several years of attending events and
trackdays just wishing I could drive out there...

It's just a driver's ed type event but I'm just thrilled I finally saved
the scratch to go...

-Matt- "..."
Tiger Racing - 01 Jun 2005 04:58 GMT
<<What's up with McLure, btw?  Did he make a mistake switching from
Vette to Viper?..>>

That's a very good question. McClure was on the verge of winning the
Championship 2 yrs ago when he got creamed at Road America. Then last
year SCCA bungled things, messing with the rules every 10 minutes and
screwing the Corvettes left and right, did him in. He hasn't been on
the ball at all this year. I wasn't at the first few races, so I'm not
sure what happened there. I'll look him up at Cleveland and get the
411. On a side note, he's one of the nicest guys at the track.

<<More observations: - I think Wolf Henzler might start cleaning up in
that series like he did in the Supercup series. >>

Oh, yeah. If he hadn't made that bonehead move at Road Atlanta, he
would have finished on podium there, too.

<<Derek Bell is really having problems with that car, especially off
the blocks.  I think it might have been a little premature for Volvo to
try and race it.>>

Derek is THE nicest guy at the track and he's said himself that the
Volvo's got issues. Funny thing though, this is the second time in two
races that I've had to hold my breath and not hit him at the start. <g>

C.
F2005... - 30 May 2005 15:04 GMT
>For those of you going to the Indy F1

...Perhaps, discussions were opened just this weekend.

>who aren't too familiar with the
>area (i.e. you don't remember the number for the Slippery Noodle Inn),
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>read it yet and once he's finished it will be deposited in one of his
>slobby junk piles and become a part of ancient history.

Did it have any suggestions for getting a decent meal in anything
approximating real time, other than at Ruth's Chris?

...I'm still waiting for a G&T I ordered in 2003.

>One bit of help: the number for the Slippery Noodle Inn is 317-631-6968.
>  Hoist one for me.  Hell, hoist ten for me.

We got ploughed with a couple of Jack drinking Jordan mechanics there
one year:  It can be chaotic but its definitely a must do.
Nino Barlini - 30 May 2005 19:05 GMT
> Did it have any suggestions for getting a decent meal in anything
> approximating real time, other than at Ruth's Chris?

And what's wrong with eating only there?  Just have drinks for breakfast
and lunch.

:-)

M

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F2005... - 01 Jun 2005 04:10 GMT
>> Did it have any suggestions for getting a decent meal in anything
>> approximating real time, other than at Ruth's Chris?
>And what's wrong with eating only there?  

It's a rather monotonous menu.

>Just have drinks for breakfast and lunch.

Alas, this man can no longer live on EtOH alone.
Nino Barlini - 01 Jun 2005 05:07 GMT
> EtOH alone.

Too obtuse for me.  Spell it out, so I can look like an idiot in front
of everybody.

M

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F2005... - 01 Jun 2005 12:25 GMT
>> EtOH alone.
>
>Too obtuse for me.  Spell it out, so I can look like an idiot in front
>of everybody.

Ethyl alcohol.
Nino Barlini - 01 Jun 2005 20:18 GMT
>>>EtOH alone.
>>
>>Too obtuse for me.  Spell it out, so I can look like an idiot in front
>>of everybody.
>
> Ethyl alcohol.

I hated chemistry.  As long as they taste OK I don't care if my drinks
are made from gasoline.  For all the sh.t I've run through this vessel,
and all the sh.t doctors have run (and are running) through it, my liver
values are still normal.  Go figure.  I still think that if I were
autopsied all the doctors would pull out my right side is this little
dog-turd looking thing.

I'll never be autopsied, I can guarantee that.

M

ps - just don't give up the sauce before I get a chance to come out
there again; I might have a little Chalone or Santa Cruz Mtn. Vineyards
something or other to quaff.  There are no wineries in Arizona
(Kokopelli Vineyards doesn't count; makes good marinade).  As long as
California doesn't keep sliding down hillsides I'll still be able to
procure.  (To some they may be just rich people living foolishly on the
side of a hill, but not to me - I lived only a mile from Bluebird Canyon
for a spell and it is a beautiful, beautiful place.)

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Dean Dark - 01 Jun 2005 23:49 GMT
>I hated chemistry.  As long as they taste OK I don't care if my drinks
>are made from gasoline.  

You'll like grappa then.  Good grappa, mind you.  Seriously.
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Dan.

Nino Barlini - 02 Jun 2005 00:49 GMT
>>I hated chemistry.  As long as they taste OK I don't care if my drinks
>>are made from gasoline.  
>
> You'll like grappa then.  Good grappa, mind you.  Seriously.

I didn't say "taste like gasoline".  I hate grappa.  Coming from an
Italian family, I've been subjected to that crap for years - homemade or
high-quality, it didn't matter.  I wouldn't pour grappa for my worst enemy.

Wait, yes I would.

Same goes for that horrible pear liquer, it usually has a pear in the
bottle (Williams).  Horrible stuff.  (I worked in the liquor industry
for years.)  Give me some Wild Turkey Rare Breed or - on a very special
occasion - some special-label Johnny Walker.  Now that I've been ruined
by a gift of JW Blue, I'm not sure if Black or Gold will ever suffice again.

We can always use new blood here, lurker.  I know you've come out of the
woods a couple times, but c'mon - you haven't lived until you've been
shredded by Mark or calculatingly cut to pieces by Tiger or - if you're
really foul - had obscenities and threats of death screamed at you, in
ALL CAPS, by me.

But I've mellowed.

M

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Dean Dark - 02 Jun 2005 01:10 GMT
>We can always use new blood here, lurker.  

Sure, I'm not averse to bleeding someplace new.  And none of the
'teeth' I've seen here scare me that much.  More of a clique than a
set of carnivores, I'd say.  But hey, let's see.
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F2005... - 02 Jun 2005 03:32 GMT
>>We can always use new blood here, lurker.  
>
>Sure, I'm not averse to bleeding someplace new.  And none of the
>'teeth' I've seen here scare me that much.  More of a clique than a
>set of carnivores, I'd say.  But hey, let's see.

If it were just a clique, it would be tolerable...

It's more of an obsequious faux-aristocracy.
Nino Barlini - 02 Jun 2005 06:27 GMT
> If it were just a clique, it would be tolerable...
>
> It's more of an obsequious faux-aristocracy.

You know, when I started coming in here, it was because I loved
Ferraris.  I still do.  But I criticized almost everybody in here; in
fact, I was a total a.shole.  Maybe you remember that.  I personally
drove away dozens of people.  I outed people's real names, sometimes
accidentally, sometimes not.  At that time, those in here tolerated me.
 Now I'm glad they did.

Did it ever occur to you that a lot of us are friends now, which is kind
of nothing more than a distant desire or goal in most newsgroups?  It's
been great for those of us able to meet.  But it's not fun to
see/hear/listen to constant criticism.  It's boring, as a matter of
fact.  And basically it's just because you really don't like one of the
posters here.  That person can be equally scratchy sometimes - but not
on your level.  I see haughtiness, a superiority gig, even sheer
in-your-face sneer power in so many of your posts.  You're smarter than
that.  Nobody here cares about the big mighty words.

I hate writing this, because I actually like you quite a bit.  I hope to
meet you someday soon, without worry that I have to meet your fist
first.  I like to hang with people who are very intelligent and speak
their mind.  People who are cultured and well-spoken.  You know damn
well that there's a difference between speaking your mind and ripping
them to shreds with big words.  But you can't just only rip people who
aren't like you or don't share your opinions or who don't agree with
you.  What if the "faux-aristocracy" you see here consisted of *you* at
the top, and all of us the pathetic acolytes who hung on your every
word?  I bet you wouldn't be ripping as hard.  I think you'd be liking
it just fine.

Because I'm not an F1 expert, I don't go to the other group I know you
frequent.  But I've never heard anything good about your presence there,
although I would not judge you by that.  Are you the king over there?

With all due respect - and I truly mean that - if all you do here is act
all irritated and eager for target practice, I think you should start
your own Ferrari group.  Alt.auto.ferraris, or the other one that has a
name similar to this one, never has a soul in it.  If you started
posting there I'm sure others would show up.  You could finally and
completely have it your way.

Good people who know things about Ferraris and about cars - people who
could help with the technical questions that have almost disappeared
from this group because they don't want to get the snippy-a.s reaming
that almost always comes - leave here after one post.  That almost says
it all.  I don't know what else to say.

M

p.s.  I don't want to see any "bravos" or "well-said" or any of that
sh.t from anybody.  It sucks that I felt like I had to write this.  I
feel bad.

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Nino Barlini - 02 Jun 2005 07:15 GMT
> You know, when I started coming in here, it was because I loved
> Ferraris.  I still do.  But I criticized almost everybody in here; in
> fact, I was a total a.shole.  Maybe you remember that.  I personally
> drove away dozens of people.  I oute blahblahblahblahblah ......

Jesus.  Lighten up.

M

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Paul Duffin - 02 Jun 2005 07:37 GMT
> p.s.  I don't want to see any "bravos" or "well-said" or any of that sh.t 
> from anybody.  It sucks that I felt like I had to write this.  I feel bad.

Bravo - Well said!

tee-hee!

The real problem is that people lack any insight. I don't want to roll out
the
old 'there's good in everybody' line (partialy because it's not true), but
it
seems to me that those of us who can see behind the mask tend to stay (and
the rewards are great) but not everyone either posseses that ability or
lasts long enough to aply it.

You're right, Mike. a conversaton with MJF around is a little like
walking into a room occupied by a bad tempered dog with itchy teeth.
...and in newsgroups there are no big dogs, just snappy ones.

So Mark, how about welcoming a stranger some time, or helping
someone by giving them the benefit of your extensive knowledge, rather
than trying to make them look like fools for the sake of their ignorance.

If you did, they might stay and who knows; you might get to like them.

-Nice Paul
F2005... - 03 Jun 2005 04:05 GMT
>> If it were just a clique, it would be tolerable...
>>
>> It's more of an obsequious faux-aristocracy.
>
>You know, when I started coming in here, it was because I loved
>Ferraris.  

It's not about that anymore, you must admit.

So where's gut to go, who loves Ferrari and Ferraris, but not
obsequious fawning unfounded sycophancy, so much?

>I still do.  But I criticized almost everybody in here; in
>fact, I was a total a.shole.  Maybe you remember that.  

No.  Not me.

>I personally
>drove away dozens of people.  I outed people's real names, sometimes
>accidentally, sometimes not.  At that time, those in here tolerated me.
> Now I'm glad they did.

Again: Not me.

>Did it ever occur to you that a lot of us are friends now, which is kind
>of nothing more than a distant desire or goal in most newsgroups?  

Almost fair, but not enough Mike.  This group is titled
Alt.Autos.Ferrari, NOT Love Me I'm a Little sh.t Bitch.

>It's been great for those of us able to meet.  But it's not fun to
>see/hear/listen to constant criticism.  It's boring, as a matter of
>fact.

...Take the "I love you, you re-afirm my insecurities" crap somewhere
more appropriate.

> And basically it's just because you really don't like one of the
>posters here.  

Not one bit.

Other groups are available and much more appropriate for group
therapy, I am neither alone nor tight-assed about expecting this one
to me more clearly focused on the subject, history, assessment and
performance of FERRARI, as a marque and a RACING TEAM.

>That person can be equally scratchy sometimes

...A poseur.

>- but not on your level.  I see haughtiness, a superiority gig, even sheer
>in-your-face sneer power in so many of your posts.  You're smarter than
>that.  Nobody here cares about the big mighty words.

f.ck that noise:  "Use it, or lose it."

>I hate writing this, because I actually like you quite a bit.  I hope to
>meet you someday soon, without worry that I have to meet your fist
>first.  

I never lead with a fist.  I'd fight you for the honor of paying of
paying for the first drink.  You mistake honest criticism for
hostility.

>I like to hang with people who are very intelligent and speak
>their mind.  People who are cultured and well-spoken.  You know damn
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the top, and all of us the pathetic acolytes who hung on your every
>word?

...A horrible circumstance by any measure.

> I bet you wouldn't be ripping as hard.  I think you'd be liking
>it just fine.

...Wrong.

>Because I'm not an F1 expert, I don't go to the other group I know you
>frequent.  But I've never heard anything good about your presence there,
>although I would not judge you by that.  Are you the king over there?

I want to destroy the "king" over there.  RASF1 is an Anglophilic
cesspool of bigotry, xenophobia, and nationalism.  ...It wasn't always
so.  Some of the very same "fuckwits" are people I was once able to
bring into the FERRARI garage during race weekends...  Now they accuse
Ferrari of cheating, on the basis of rules changes hobbling the team.

>With all due respect - and I truly mean that - if all you do here is act
>all irritated and eager for target practice, I think you should start
>your own Ferrari group.  Alt.auto.ferraris, or the other one that has a
>name similar to this one, never has a soul in it.  If you started
>posting there I'm sure others would show up.  You could finally and
>completely have it your way.

I don't want "my way"...  This, silly little bitches like or not, is a
PUBLIC forum, ostensibly dedicated to the discussion, no doubt
reasonable as well as not, of FERRARI.  ...NOT the Forum-level
recitation of the subjugation of some poor sot bearing the nom de
guerre of "My Expensive Crew Chief".

>Good people who know things about Ferraris and about cars - people who
>could help with the technical questions that have almost disappeared
>from this group because they don't want to get the snippy-a.s reaming
>that almost always comes - leave here after one post.  That almost says
>it all.  I don't know what else to say.

I have done nothing to dissuade anyone whose intent, purpose, and
content has been honest, or insightful, or erudite concerning FERRARI.

...If I have scared-off any poseurs, pretenders, braggarts, and
megalomaniacs, I have done good work.

>p.s.  I don't want to see any "bravos" or "well-said" or any of that
>sh.t from anybody.  

You'll get none from me:  You should know better.

>It sucks that I felt like I had to write this.  I feel bad.

...You should.  

You are wrong.
Nino Barlini - 03 Jun 2005 04:35 GMT
>>>If it were just a clique, it would be tolerable...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 124 lines]
>
> You are wrong.

Well, I liked some of what you had to say.  Other people won't.  I'm not
here this time to defend those who can defend themselves.  Iyou buy the
first drink.

I'm a little stuck here, I hope everybody understands.  I want to call
it like I see it, but I like everybody here.  I can't believe I- the
Terminator of yore - am, like, so wishy-washy.

M

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F2005... - 03 Jun 2005 04:52 GMT
>> You are wrong.
>>
>Well, I liked some of what you had to say.  Other people won't.  

No doubt.

>I'm not
>here this time to defend those who can defend themselves.

There's no affirmative defense for narcissism.

> Iyou buy the first drink.

...You get to NY sans "baggage" and your money will be no good.

>I'm a little stuck here, I hope everybody understands.  I want to call
>it like I see it, but I like everybody here.  I can't believe I- the
>Terminator of yore - am, like, so wishy-washy.

Virtue is not for sissies.
F2005... - 03 Jun 2005 04:16 GMT
>> If it were just a clique, it would be tolerable...
>>
>> It's more of an obsequious faux-aristocracy.
>
>You know, when I started coming in here, it was because I loved
>Ferraris.  

It's not about that anymore, you must admit.

So where's a guy to go, who loves Ferrari and Ferraris, but not
obsequious fawning unfounded sycophancy, so much?

>I still do.  But I criticized almost everybody in here; in
>fact, I was a total a.shole.  Maybe you remember that.  

No.  Wasn't me.

>I personally
>drove away dozens of people.  I outed people's real names, sometimes
>accidentally, sometimes not.  At that time, those in here tolerated me.
> Now I'm glad they did.

Again: Not me.

>Did it ever occur to you that a lot of us are friends now, which is kind
>of nothing more than a distant desire or goal in most newsgroups?  

Almost fair, but not enough Mike.  This group is titled
Alt.Autos.Ferrari, NOT Love Me I'm a Little sh.t Bitch.

>It's been great for those of us able to meet.  But it's not fun to
>see/hear/listen to constant criticism.  It's boring, as a matter of
>fact.

...Take the "I love you, you re-afirm my insecurities" crap somewhere
more appropriate.

> And basically it's just because you really don't like one of the
>posters here.  

Not one bit.

Other groups are available and much more appropriate for group
therapy, I am neither alone nor tight-assed about expecting this ONE
to me more clearly focused on the subject, history, assessment and
performance of FERRARI, as a MARQUE and a RACING TEAM.

>That person can be equally scratchy sometimes

...A stone-cold poseur.

>- but not on your level.  I see haughtiness, a superiority gig, even sheer
>in-your-face sneer power in so many of your posts.  You're smarter than
>that.  Nobody here cares about the big mighty words.

f.ck that noise:  "Use it, or lose it."

>I hate writing this, because I actually like you quite a bit.  I hope to
>meet you someday soon, without worry that I have to meet your fist
>first.  

I never lead with a fist.  I'd fight you for the honor of paying of
paying for the first drink.  You mistake honest criticism for
hostility.

>I like to hang with people who are very intelligent and speak
>their mind.  People who are cultured and well-spoken.  You know damn
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the top, and all of us the pathetic acolytes who hung on your every
>word?

...A horrible circumstance by any measure.

> I bet you wouldn't be ripping as hard.  I think you'd be liking
>it just fine.

...Wrong.

>Because I'm not an F1 expert, I don't go to the other group I know you
>frequent.  But I've never heard anything good about your presence there,
>although I would not judge you by that.  Are you the king over there?

I want to destroy the "king" over there.  RASF1 is an Anglophilic
cesspool of bigotry, xenophobia, and nationalism.  ...It wasn't always
so.  Some of the very same "fuckwits" are people I was once delighted
o bring into the FERRARI garage during race weekends...  Now they
accuse Ferrari of cheating with every slip, on the basis of rules
changes hobbling the team.

>With all due respect - and I truly mean that - if all you do here is act
>all irritated and eager for target practice, I think you should start
>your own Ferrari group.  Alt.auto.ferraris, or the other one that has a
>name similar to this one, never has a soul in it.  If you started
>posting there I'm sure others would show up.  You could finally and
>completely have it your way.

I don't want "my way"...  This, silly little bitches like or not, is a
PUBLIC forum, ostensibly dedicated to the discussion, no doubt
reasonable as well as not, of FERRARI.  ...NOT the Penthouse
Forum-level recitation of the subjugation of some poor sot bearing the
nom de guerre of "My Expensive Crew Chief".

>Good people who know things about Ferraris and about cars - people who
>could help with the technical questions that have almost disappeared
>from this group because they don't want to get the snippy-a.s reaming
>that almost always comes - leave here after one post.  That almost says
>it all.  I don't know what else to say.

I have done nothing to dissuade anyone whose intent, purpose, and
content has been honest, or insightful, or erudite concerning FERRARI.

...If I have scared-off any poseurs, pretenders, braggarts, and
megalomaniacs I have done good work.

>p.s.  I don't want to see any "bravos" or "well-said" or any of that
>sh.t from anybody.  

You'll get none from me:  You should know better.

>It sucks that I felt like I had to write this.  I feel bad.

...You should.  

You are dead wrong.
Paul Duffin - 03 Jun 2005 10:55 GMT
> Almost fair, but not enough Mike.  This group is titled
> Alt.Autos.Ferrari, NOT Love Me I'm a Little sh.t Bitch.

Blimey - get over her, Mark. You're becoming obsessesed.
All this frothy-mouthed ranting about 'faux aristocracy' in this
group and 'destroying kings' in others...

I posted this a while back. Take heed:

I Link, Therefore I am by George Simpson, Monday, Apr 25, 2005 8:17 AM EST

A WEST NYACK, N.Y. MAN was found dead at his computer apparently the victim
of trying to keep up with too many professional forums. Childress H.
Wanamaker, 54, an account executive at a New York-based new media company,
died of starvation according to the West Nyack coroner's office. Wanamaker's
emaciated body was found by Loraine, his wife of 26 years, who told
MediaPost she had been bringing her husband meals on plastic trays for
weeks, but that he never took the time to eat them.
"He was glued to his computer 24/7," she said tearfully. "He was so afraid
he was going to miss an opportunity to contribute a comment or start a
discussion, that he just stopped eating." She added that Wanamaker's last
words were "OK Picard, stick that in your pipe and smoke it..."

Computer forensic specialists from SUNY at Cortland discovered that
Wanamaker was subscribed to 48 different forums and networking communities
including one apparently having to do with the elderly called "oldtimers"
and another apparently limited to just 100 people. They also found that he
posted a comment into one forum or another on an average of two per minute
every hour of the day for the past seven weeks.

"He felt under terrible pressure to be part of the online community," said
his son, Lucian, who says he tried several times to get his father's
attention and lure him away from the computer. "The only time he even looked
up was when I told him I had seen Dane Madsen trying to steal his car out of
the driveway."

Police found what appeared to be an organization chart taped to the wall of
Wanamaker's den with lines linking small photos of people unknown to the
police including a Tom Hespos and an Adam Boettiger. Neither is considered a
suspect in Wanamaker's death.

"Once, I thought I had him," said Lucian Wanamaker, "when I said that mom
had made cookies, but half out of his chair, he just sat back down mumbling
something about two Roman gods; I believe it was Jupiter and Atlas having
some sort of titanic battle. 'Let them eat PIE,' he bellowed banging on his
keyboard."

Computer forensic specialists reported that there was no order or continuity
to Wanamaker's forum postings. "It looks like he just sort of randomly
commented on whatever was in the discussion string at the time," said
Stephen Hall, CUNY-Cortland adjunct professor of intemperate and impulsive
behavior. "He let nothing go by unchallenged by his own point of view, nor
failed to respond to any other community member asking for advice or a new
job. This consumed not only 24 hours a day, but also, apparently, his
physical health."

In what must be a record, Wanamaker was linked into to over 15,250 other
community members, many of whom he exchanged notes with daily. He also
contributed to 375 blogs and was expected to start an online column about
the impact of interactive communications on health, when he died.

A virtual memorial service will be held online at a date to be determined.
Tiger Racing - 03 Jun 2005 18:19 GMT
<<Blimey - get over her, Mark. You're becoming obsessesed.>>

It's almost flattering, in a creepy sort of way. Do you think this will
rise to outright stalking? The poor boy can hardly post without
mentioning me, even when he starts his own threads about subjects that
have absolutely nothing to do with me specifically. I especially liked
the time that he posted what he must have imagined to be quite the
zinger and since everybody ignored him, he actually posted it again a
month later! How cute is that?  

C.
Paul Duffin - 03 Jun 2005 20:00 GMT
> <<Blimey - get over her, Mark. You're becoming obsessesed.>>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> C.

Worst of all, he calls you a 'bitch'.

...That's my job!

MCPD
Tiger Racing - 03 Jun 2005 20:48 GMT
<<Worst of all, he calls you a 'bitch'.

...That's my job!>>

But of course.

Funny thing is, most people who meet me IRL end up thinking I'm really
some sort of snuggle bunny or something. Except for that damned rabbit
of yours!

Ya know, them's good eatin'!

C.
Paul Duffin - 03 Jun 2005 22:36 GMT
> Funny thing is, most people who meet me IRL end up thinking I'm really
> some sort of snuggle bunny or something. Except for that damned rabbit
> of yours!

'Snuggle bunny'...  hmmmm...  SB1 ?

> Ya know, them's good eatin'!

Darcy didn't like that comment. In fact, he said that next time
you're in his run, you'd better watch out.

"Where? behind the rabbit?"
Nino Barlini - 03 Jun 2005 20:21 GMT
> <<Blimey - get over her, Mark. You're becoming obsessesed.>>
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> C.

I gave him your address and phone ... sent him a ski mask and some of
those black leather man-beater gloves with the insert for quarter rolls
(like in Dirty Harry).  Air fare.  Complete local-area maps.  Security
codes to the house and the shop.  Satellite surveillance.  He forced me.
 If I didn't he was going to make me listen to a badly scratched
Horowitz LP repeatedly.

Sorry.

Signature

"Get the gun!  Get the gun!  Get away from the gun!"

from Public Enemy No. 1 (I think)

Tiger Racing - 03 Jun 2005 20:46 GMT
<< I gave him your address and phone ... He forced me.  If I didn't he
was going to make me listen to a badly scratched Horowitz LP
repeatedly.>>

The horror! Who could blame you?

C.
F2005... - 04 Jun 2005 04:42 GMT
><<Blimey - get over her, Mark. You're becoming obsessesed.>>
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>zinger and since everybody ignored him, he actually posted it again a
>month later! How cute is that?  

...Q.E.D.
Tiger Racing - 03 Jun 2005 00:07 GMT
<<More of a clique than a set of carnivores, I'd say. >>

Why is it that whenever a group of friends or friendly people chat
online, other people term them a *clique*?

Speak up more! Even if you don't like us much. <g>

C.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 02 Jun 2005 06:11 GMT
> I didn't say "taste like gasoline".  I hate grappa.

How about Cafe Corretto?  I love the grappa w/ espresso!

> Same goes for that horrible pear liquer, it usually has a pear in the
> bottle (Williams).  Horrible stuff.  (I worked in the liquor industry
> for years.)  Give me some Wild Turkey Rare Breed or - on a very special
> occasion - some special-label Johnny Walker.  Now that I've been ruined
> by a gift of JW Blue, I'm not sure if Black or Gold will ever suffice
> again.

I had one in your honour last night in Vegas.  I went to the new Wynn
and dined and drank at the "Corsa" restaurant.  The entire place was
read on black with F1 photos all over the wall.  Food, decent but
overpriced.  Booze, overpriced (Shot of Johnny Blue $45!) but tasty.

Also visited the Penske/Ferrari dealership.  All the late model stuff on
display (inc. a Black Enzo) but pride of place near the entrance
(through which you must pay $10 to pass) was held by a friggin' 1990
Testarossa.  Overpriced at $79k and ugly as hell in white.  Yikes!

> We can always use new blood here, lurker.

We can always use any blood here!

  I know you've come out of the
> woods a couple times, but c'mon - you haven't lived until you've been
> shredded by Mark or calculatingly cut to pieces by Tiger or - if you're
> really foul - had obscenities and threats of death screamed at you, in
> ALL CAPS, by me.
>
> But I've mellowed.

Yeah right...

> M

T308
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Nino Barlini - 02 Jun 2005 07:15 GMT
> I had one in your honour last night in Vegas.

Thank you.

> I went to the new Wynn
> and dined and drank at the "Corsa" restaurant.  The entire place was
> read on black with F1 photos all over the wall.  Food, decent but
> overpriced.  Booze, overpriced (Shot of Johnny Blue $45!) but tasty.

That place sounds great.  I'd love to look at the photos.

> Also visited the Penske/Ferrari dealership.  All the late model stuff on
> display (inc. a Black Enzo) but pride of place near the entrance
> (through which you must pay $10 to pass) was held by a friggin' 1990
> Testarossa.  Overpriced at $79k and ugly as hell in white.  Yikes!

I can't believe a dealership would charge $10 to walk in.  That's sick.
 However, a black Enzo is good-looking to me.  Don't know about the
"Miami Vice" Testy.  Always liked those in fly yellow, rossa corsa (of
course), black, and silver

>> But I've mellowed.
>
> Yeah right...

I have!  I have!  I hate no one!

M

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