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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / June 2005

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Sharknose - 21 Jun 2005 09:02 GMT
Deep front spoiler or not? Personally I think it looks better but on a
practical level, (I know, how can you be practical with a Ferrari) I'm
worried about buying a 308 with one and it being crunched on the abundance
of speed humps in my town. Anyone got experience of whether its low enough
for that to happen? Paul? T308?

SN
Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 11:20 GMT
> Deep front spoiler or not? Personally I think it looks better but on a
> practical level, (I know, how can you be practical with a Ferrari) I'm
> worried about buying a 308 with one and it being crunched on the abundance
> of speed humps in my town. Anyone got experience of whether its low enough
> for that to happen? Paul? T308?

I refer to all speed humps as anti-Ferrari devices.

Yes, the low spoiler looks better and apparently helps stability at high
speed (I've done 155 ish in mine and it was solid as a rock, but then
I've not done that in one with a smaller spoiler so I can't tell you how it
compares) but it does grind out *really* easily. I've even had it touch down
on country lanes with bad camber! (makes a hell of a bang as well).

The good news is that a) its very strong (very thick glass-fibre) and b) the
damage is usually just a 'nibble' at the front edge, easily disguised with a
touch up paint, and easily (and cheaply) filled and re-sprayed every
few years (the sort of job a 'bloke on a trading estate") can do.

We interrupt this program with this important message:

FFS, I'm being helpful here. So anyone even *thinking* about
making all the obvious jokes about paint, colours and what-not
can just hush their mouths!

We now return you to our regular programming:

What you need to do is to be very observant of potential hazards
and  master various techniques such as going diagonally over speed humps
(so you get a wheel on it to lift the front of the car) and if necessary,
reversing over obstacles.

You also have to face the fact that sooner or later (such as when trying to
board a ferry) YOU will be the 'arsehole at the front of the queue holding
everybody up because you can't get your stupid sports car over a small
bump.'

Of course the flipside of having a highly rigid low spoiler is what happens
if you hit something solid, such as a kerb or, say, a small ramp at the
entrance to a garage.

Mr T308 will now step in...

-Paul
Sharknose - 21 Jun 2005 11:57 GMT
>> Deep front spoiler or not? Personally I think it looks better but on a
>> practical level, (I know, how can you be practical with a Ferrari) I'm
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> -Paul
Guess I can live with all that, I'm sure its worth it!

Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do that
professionally?

SN
ar50troll@gmail.com - 21 Jun 2005 12:54 GMT
Sloe your driveway grade can cause the lower air dam to grind.  I have
Testarossas and have to hit my driveway at an angle to prevent dragging
the spoiler across the concrete.  You will also get rock chips in the
spoiler with normal use.  be prepared to tuch it up now and again.
It's easy on the Testarossa since it's black.
I agree aesthetically, the 308 with the low spoiler looks nice.
As my friends say  "Buy Both!" :-)
Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 13:13 GMT
> Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do that
> professionally?

Thanks. Sadly not. I'm a partner in an software house.

-Paul
Sharknose - 21 Jun 2005 14:17 GMT
>> Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do that
>> professionally?
>
> Thanks. Sadly not. I'm a partner in an software house.
>
> -Paul
Trying to get the time to learn a good 3D package for work but haven't ever
got round to it. Can you recommend one?

SN
Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 14:24 GMT
> Trying to get the time to learn a good 3D package for work but haven't
> ever got round to it. Can you recommend one?

Depends what 'work' is and what you're trying to achieve. Mail me
privately and I'll spare the rest of these good people my thoughts.

My addy is  myfirstname.mysecondname@dial.pipex.com

..although it's a bit late for me to start trying to fool the spambots :-(

-Paul
The Dream - 21 Jun 2005 19:27 GMT
> Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do that
> professionally?

He better start.

;-)

MC

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Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 21:01 GMT
>> Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do that
>> professionally?
>
> He better start.
>
> ;-)

Ouch.

Hey, the Zambians are threatening to pay us...

...any day now...

...not a day too soon.

:-(
Iain Miller - 22 Jun 2005 13:22 GMT
>>> Checked out your website the other day. Love your 3D work. Do you do
>>> that professionally?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> ...not a day too soon.

Good news....fingers x'd, touch wood, bow to all 4 points of the
compass......

I.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 21 Jun 2005 15:15 GMT
> Deep front spoiler or not? Personally I think it looks better but on a
> practical level, (I know, how can you be practical with a Ferrari) I'm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> SN

Stay away from the Euro spoiler.  I have one on mine and must limit
myself to "Ferrari Friendly" driveways.  That might not seem like an
issue, but it ends up (esp here in LA) being a big problem.  There are
simply places I cannot take the car (including two of my favorite
restaurants).

To get the car out of my driveway I have to lay down a sheet of formica
and ease the car out and avoid damage on the concrete.  It's a pain.

I'm on my THIRD spoiler due to the damage that's been done to it (due to
hitting things on the road) in the ten years that I've owned the car.
Next time I break it (and I'm sure I will) i'm going to put the shallow
version on.

T308
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Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 15:50 GMT
> I'm on my THIRD spoiler due to the damage that's been done to it (due to
> hitting things on the road)

Has one considered looking where one is going ?  ;-)

-Paul
Iain Miller - 21 Jun 2005 17:26 GMT
>> I'm on my THIRD spoiler due to the damage that's been done to it (due to
>> hitting things on the road)
>
> Has one considered looking where one is going ?  ;-)

ROFL (!)

I.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 21 Jun 2005 17:44 GMT
>>I'm on my THIRD spoiler due to the damage that's been done to it (due to
>>hitting things on the road)
>
> Has one considered looking where one is going ?  ;-)

No, I drive by braille.

The first spoiler died when the attendant at the "State of California
Test only Smog Check" station insisted on driving the car up on the test
stand.  I asked him if he'd ever driven a Ferrari, he said "oh yeah, we
get them in here all the time" so he proceeded to drive it in the shop,
up on the dyno/test stand and then, to my horror, he sliped the clutch,
the car leapt forward, catching the spoiler on the end of the stand and
then crashed into the computer stand at the end of the ramp folding up
the nose of the car and writing off the computers as well.

The attendant then did the best impression of Jefferson's little brother
in Fast Times at Ridgemont High I've ever seen.

Attendant: My boss is gonna kill me! He's gonna kill me!
Me: Don't sweat it, the state will pay me off.
Attendant: My Boss is gonna sh.t!
Me: Make up your mind, is he gonna sh.t or is he gonna kill you?
Attendant: First he's gonna sh.t, then he's gonna kill me!
Me: Relax, alright? I own a Ferrari shop, I've got this ultimate set of
tools. I can fix it (and rape the state of California on the cost of
repair!).

The second time I hit a friggin' railroad tie that fell off the back of
a truck on the 605 freeway.  Hitting a big piece of petrefied, oil
soaked lumber at 75 mph isn't good for fibreglass (or your nerves...).

As for the third time, I'm thinking maybe I'll run over some Pommie
Pooftah in Capri pants....

T308
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The Dream - 21 Jun 2005 20:06 GMT
> The attendant then did the best impression of Jefferson's little brother
> in Fast Times at Ridgemont High I've ever seen.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> tools. I can fix it (and rape the state of California on the cost of
> repair!).

One of the funniest parts of a very funny movie!

> The second time I hit a friggin' railroad tie that fell off the back of
> a truck on the 605 freeway.  Hitting a big piece of petrefied, oil
> soaked lumber at 75 mph isn't good for fibreglass (or your nerves...).

I'll bet you were sh.tting ....

> As for the third time, I'm thinking maybe I'll run over some Pommie
> Pooftah in Capri pants....

Thank God there's nobody like that in here ...

MC

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It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the yearsAnd ride the whims of your mind
Commanding in another world
Suddenly, you hear and see
This magic new dimension

Paul Duffin - 21 Jun 2005 20:59 GMT
>> As for the third time, I'm thinking maybe I'll run over some Pommie
>> Pooftah in Capri pants....
>
> Thank God there's nobody like that in here ...

Damn straight.

<cough>

-MCPD
Iain Miller - 21 Jun 2005 17:29 GMT
> Deep front spoiler or not? Personally I think it looks better but on a
> practical level, (I know, how can you be practical with a Ferrari) I'm
> worried about buying a 308 with one and it being crunched on the abundance
> of speed humps in my town. Anyone got experience of whether its low enough
> for that to happen? Paul? T308?

Adding to what MCPD "Rosso-bleedin-Corsa" has said, I've managed to ground
the front of my 328 on a couple of occasions - but mostly on the understray
behind the spoiler (which actually is a little lower than the spoiler lip I
think). You do have to be careful with the deep 308 spoiler - I hear tell
that if you whack it hard enough you can actually buckle the front wings.

I.
 
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