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Car Forum / Ferrari Cars / July 2005

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OT - from AutoWeek - don't EVEN bitch at me for putting this here

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The Dream - 29 Jun 2005 21:48 GMT
I'm not in the mood for any sh.t today.  And I would drive this thing
anytime I got handed the keys.

There are pictures on A/W's web site.  Looks like a beefy blue Z06
basically.

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Blue Devil Lives!! When GM's vice chairman speaks of an
ultra-performance Corvette, we listen
BOB GRITZINGER
Posted Date: 6/29/05

General Motors vice chairman Bob Lutz won’t confirm this car exists, but
he is not saying it doesn’t. We first wrote about Chevrolet’s
ultra-performance Corvette—dubbed Blue Devil, most likely to catch the
attention of GM CEO and Duke Blue Devil grad Rick Wagoner—shortly before
the sixth-generation Corvette debuted at the Detroit auto show in
January (AW, Dec. 22 and 29, 2004). We asked Lutz about the car during a
recent exclusive interview with AutoWeek.

“Let’s just say [Corvette chief engineer] Dave Hill is not a guy who
likes playing second fiddle to any high-performance car on the road,”
said Lutz. “My guess is we’re going to find a way to do something beyond
the Z06, that would be at a much higher price point, and which would
compete with some of the leading high-performance cars of the world.”

Lutz said the car may be delayed while the company focuses most of its
engineering might on pulling ahead profit-making vehicles like its
next-generation large sport/utilities and pickups.

“But there is certainly no lack of desire on anyone’s part to establish
the supremacy of the Corvette,” says Lutz.

Spied on the Nurbürgring, Blue Devil appears to be living up to the
earlier hype. Eyewitnesses said the car sounds supercharged, confirming
reports the engine is likely a blown version of the Z06’s 7.0-liter V8,
producing upward of 600 hp. Look for lightweight carbon fiber body parts
to reduce weight to about 2900 pounds.

Pricing will likely start somewhere around $100,000 if and when the car
makes production in 2006.

Photo caption:
We hear 2005 Le Mans class winner Jan Magnussen is turning
faster-than-Z06 laps in the Blue Devil at Nurburgring.

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Fred Garvin - 01 Jul 2005 22:32 GMT
>I'm not in the mood for any sh.t today.  And I would drive this thing
>anytime I got handed the keys.
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>producing upward of 600 hp. Look for lightweight carbon fiber body parts
>to reduce weight to about 2900 pounds.

Oooo...  86hp/l with a frigging blower...  How "medieval".

2900lbs  ...Who designed the CFRP, the same stooges that make the SLR?

>Pricing will likely start somewhere around $100,000 if and when the car
>makes production in 2006.
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>M

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Automatic Jack - 02 Jul 2005 01:02 GMT
> Oooo...  86hp/l with a frigging blower...  How "medieval".

> 2900lbs  ...Who designed the CFRP, the same stooges that make the SLR?

> The difference between stupidity and genius is
> that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein

You just couldn't resist, could you?

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Fred Garvin - 02 Jul 2005 03:29 GMT
>> Oooo...  86hp/l with a frigging blower...  How "medieval".
>
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>You just couldn't resist, could you?

In circumstances such as this, it is a duty.

Those figures are hardly world class, nor exceptional.

...And $100K for a stinking 'Vette?  

What are they trying to do, sell more Porsches?

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that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 02 Jul 2005 06:03 GMT
>> Oooo...  86hp/l with a frigging blower...  How "medieval".
>
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>
> You just couldn't resist, could you?

Don't listen to him, he's a male prostitute!

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Automatic Jack - 02 Jul 2005 06:18 GMT
> Don't listen to him, he's a male prostitute!

"Well, thank you, ma'am. I do what I can. Because I'm Fred Garvin, Male
Prostitute."

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matt  borland - 02 Jul 2005 15:10 GMT
> > Don't listen to him, he's a male prostitute!
>
> "Well, thank you, ma'am. I do what I can. Because I'm Fred Garvin, Male
> Prostitute."

Not to be confused with "Hands of Stone" Ronnie Garvin,
nor with "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin....

-Matt- "..."
Automatic Jack - 02 Jul 2005 16:31 GMT
matt borland wrote:

>>>Don't listen to him, he's a male prostitute!
>>
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> -Matt- "..."

We all know how to Google SO well!

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matt  borland - 03 Jul 2005 02:05 GMT
> matt borland wrote:
> >
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> >
> We all know how to Google SO well!

Huh? I grew up watching wrestling and these names came to me
long before I got the male prostitute reference.

I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed of all that, but I
assure you there was no googling on this end.

-Matt- "..."
Automatic Jack - 03 Jul 2005 02:36 GMT
matt borland wrote:

>>matt borland wrote:
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> -Matt- "..."

Well, there sure as hell was on mine!  I might have the IQ of a god, a
memory like a Master lock, and the mental acuity of a mystic (some
people mispronouce that as dipstick, I don't know what they're talking
about), but I just don't know everything.

M

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matt  borland - 03 Jul 2005 13:58 GMT
"Automatic Jack" <aj@chrome.com> wrote in message

but I just don't know everything.

> M

I don't either, just a lot of the useless stuff...

I'm still stumpable, as you've proven before...

-Matt- "Your sig, for instance..."
Automatic Jack - 03 Jul 2005 15:41 GMT
matt borland wrote:
> "Automatic Jack" <aj@chrome.com> wrote in message
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> -Matt- "Your sig, for instance..."

One of the greatest (to me) sci-fi books of all time, the awesome
collection of short stories by William Gibson known as "Burning Chrome"
(see below).  You can pick it up in paperback for a buck at used book
places.  But if you'd like to wait you can have my copy in October (it's
falling apart).

Automatic Jack is one of the characters in the book's title story.  In
Gibson's future folks routinely replace their eyes with ones that can
record and replay data (simstim).  Let's just say Sendais aren't quite
as good as the upscale brand.  Things happen.

I've read that 1.5" thick paperback probably thirty times, and I still
get goosebumps!

There also happens to be a story in there called "Johnny Mnemonic".

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0441089348/qid=1120401522/sr=2-2/ref=pd_b
bs_b_2_2/104-3539206-8110363


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matt  borland - 04 Jul 2005 01:55 GMT
> matt borland wrote:
> > "Automatic Jack" <aj@chrome.com> wrote in message
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> There also happens to be a story in there called "Johnny Mnemonic".

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0441089348/qid=1120401522/sr=2-2/ref=
pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-3539206-8110363

> M
>
> --
> "Sendai eyes are notorious for depth-perception defects and warranty
> hassles, among other things."

I read one of his books a long time ago about an AI named Wintermute.

It was related to the Johnny Mnemonic one, I believe. Killer book. I gotta
go grab more of that cyberpunk stuff, you just reminded me how good it
was...
matt  borland - 04 Jul 2005 02:20 GMT
> > matt borland wrote:
> > > "Automatic Jack" <aj@chrome.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > There also happens to be a story in there called "Johnny Mnemonic".

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0441089348/qid=1120401522/sr=2-2/ref=
> pd_bbs_b_2_2/104-3539206-8110363
> >
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> go grab more of that cyberpunk stuff, you just reminded me how good it
> was...

Now that I think of it, it might have been the same damn book. That
simstim reference jogged another memory.

Awww man, now I gotta go to Google as this is killing me.

-Matt- "..."
matt  borland - 04 Jul 2005 02:22 GMT
"matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message

> > I read one of his books a long time ago about an AI named Wintermute.
> >
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>
> -Matt- "..."

Neuromancer! That was it. Great book. Highly recommended.

-Matt- "..."
Automatic Jack - 04 Jul 2005 05:22 GMT
matt borland wrote:

> Neuromancer! That was it. Great book. Highly recommended.

Got it.  He's too good not to collect just about every one of those
oldies.  He now writes more mainstream novels; haven't read any of those
yet.

M

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Automatic Jack - 04 Jul 2005 05:21 GMT
matt borland wrote:

>>>matt borland wrote:
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> -Matt- "..."

I gave you the info.  I can give you more!  You don't need to Google!
Actually, "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Burning Chrome" helped formed the basis
for the Matrix movies.

M

Goggling is faster, though.  Who knows where I might be.

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