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Michelin - Scary Photos on the Indy banking

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Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 02 Jul 2005 18:05 GMT
Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
Indy.  Scary stuff...

http://tbk.fameflame.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19543

T308
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David Melville - 02 Jul 2005 19:03 GMT
>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>T308
f.ck ME!!

You can see the inside of the rim showing between the tyre and the
edge of the rim!!!!!

Scary doesn't cut it I'm afraid, 308 - that's horrifying.

Cheers,
      Dave

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Probert - 02 Jul 2005 19:32 GMT
>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Scary doesn't cut it I'm afraid, 308 - that's horrifying.

I wonder how Brendan's going to try and justify his crackers argument with
this. In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs of
rippling.

Cheers,
Probert.
David Melville - 02 Jul 2005 19:40 GMT
>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Cheers,
>Probert.

Hah! Trust me, this is rasf1. You know as well as I do that those who
don't want to see this won't be able to.

For once, after a long time, the rose-tinted glasses aren't ferrari
red.

Cheers,
      Dave

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neutron - 02 Jul 2005 21:28 GMT
> >>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> >>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> this. In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs of
> rippling.

Nowhere near as badly.
Da Frank - 03 Jul 2005 04:16 GMT
>> I wonder how Brendan's going to try and justify his crackers argument with
>> this. In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs
>of
>> rippling.
>
>Nowhere near as badly.

LOL. You think that's why the Michelins failed and the Bridgestones
didn't ? :)

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neutron - 03 Jul 2005 13:55 GMT
> >> I wonder how Brendan's going to try and justify his crackers argument with
> >> this. In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> LOL. You think that's why the Michelins failed and the Bridgestones
> didn't ? :)

Uh, no.
Stefan Mazur - 04 Jul 2005 15:01 GMT
> I wonder how Brendan's going to try and justify his crackers argument with
> this.

Same way as usual. He will ignore it and pretend that those pics simply
don't exist.

>In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs of
> rippling.
>
> Cheers,
> Probert.

Stefan Mazur
Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 09 Jul 2005 15:16 GMT
>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>this. In a couple of those pics even the Bridgestones were showing signs of
>rippling.

LOFL

So what, haven't you ever seen a top fuel dragster's run in slow
motion?

...Ignorance is indeed bliss, I suppose; deformation is part of how a
tire works.
Probert - 09 Jul 2005 15:26 GMT
>>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> ...Ignorance is indeed bliss, I suppose; deformation is part of how a
> tire works.

The difference being that a dragster's tyres are deliberately designed to
deform - it's a part of getting the enormous power onto the track as quickly
as possible from a standing start.

An F1 car's tyres aren't designed to deform - certainly not as much as those
pictures suggest.

Ignorance is, clearly, indeed bliss.

Cheers,
Probert.
Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 09 Jul 2005 15:52 GMT
>>>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>An F1 car's tyres aren't designed to deform

Yeah...  Except you're dead wrong.

>- certainly not as much as those pictures suggest.

>Ignorance is, clearly, indeed bliss.

...There it is then, certified by a genuine shrunken head.
Probert - 10 Jul 2005 01:17 GMT
>>>>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the
>>>>>>photos
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
>>- certainly not as much as those pictures suggest.

Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so I'll rephrase
that;

F1 tyres certainly aren't designed to deform as much as those pictures of
the Michelin's suggest.

In fact, the Michelin's are designed so that the tyre walls bulge on corners
so that there is as large a contact patch as possible, and therefore more
grip.

>>Ignorance is, clearly, indeed bliss.
>
> ...There it is then, certified by a genuine shrunken head.

No need to be so hard on yourself.

Cheers,
Probert.
Bigbird - 10 Jul 2005 08:44 GMT
> Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so I'll
> rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> corners so that there is as large a contact patch as possible, and
> therefore more grip.

No I think you have it slightly wrong in you mind. I'm sure you would find
your bulge on the other side of these tyres though. I'm not sure how you
imagine there would be a bulge on the outside (relative to the corner) of a
tyre.
Probert - 10 Jul 2005 09:15 GMT
>> Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so I'll
>> rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> imagine there would be a bulge on the outside (relative to the corner) of
> a tyre.

If I am wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. However, that's what I
understand from a piece I read a couple of weeks ago in either Autosport or
the Daily Telegraph. If it's the latter it's entirely possible I'm wrong
because the DT's F1 correspondent, Kevin Garside, usually manages to get
something fairly fundamental wrong in each of his columns. Usually I manage
to spot them - perhaps not this time.

The jist of the piece was the difference in 'philosophy' on tyre
construction between Michelin and Bridgestone, and it seems to revolve
around how the tyre walls react to make the tread grip the road. In certain
conditions, the Michelin walls 'bulge' to ensure the greatest contact patch,
whereas the Bridgestone walls are more rigid.

Cheers,
Probert.
Bigbird - 10 Jul 2005 10:04 GMT
> > > Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so I'll
> > > rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> understand from a piece I read a couple of weeks ago in either
> Autosport or the Daily Telegraph.

Maybe what you read was not wrong, but did it say the tyres bulge on the
wall on the outside of the bend? The exact opposite of what was seen in
Indy.

I certainly can't understand how this could be possible. It goes against
everything I understand wrt the change in forces while cornering.

Have a think about it.
Probert - 10 Jul 2005 18:08 GMT
>> > > Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so I'll
>> > > rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Maybe what you read was not wrong, but did it say the tyres bulge on the
> wall on the outside of the bend?

I'm pretty sure it did.

The exact opposite of what was seen in
> Indy.

Maybe that was the flaw in the Michelin construction.

Cheers,
Probert.

> I certainly can't understand how this could be possible. It goes against
> everything I understand wrt the change in forces while cornering.
>
> Have a think about it.
Bigbird - 10 Jul 2005 21:25 GMT
> > > > > Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so
> > > > > I'll rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Maybe that was the flaw in the Michelin construction.

I very much doubt it. I am pretty sure your suggestion is against the laws
of physics.

> > I certainly can't understand how this could be possible. It goes
> > against everything I understand wrt the change in forces while
> > cornering. Have a think about it.
David Melville - 11 Jul 2005 04:06 GMT
>> > > > > Alright, I didn't edit myself properly to be clear there so
>> > > > > I'll rephrase that;
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>I very much doubt it. I am pretty sure your suggestion is against the laws
>of physics.

I thought I read that the laws of physics had recently been replaced
with "physical guidlines".   I could be wrong.

Cheers,
      Dave

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George - 02 Jul 2005 21:01 GMT
Pretty amazing that the photogs picked up on this.  Terrifying stuff.
Michelin probably knew a lot more then they let on.
David Mitchell - 02 Jul 2005 21:28 GMT
> Pretty amazing that the photogs picked up on this.  Terrifying stuff.
> Michelin probably knew a lot more then they let on.

ffs "Michelin probably knew a lot more then they let on" they said the
fuckin' tyres were going to explode on turn 13 at racing speed what more
could they do?
Automatic Jack - 02 Jul 2005 22:01 GMT
>> Pretty amazing that the photogs picked up on this.  Terrifying stuff.
>> Michelin probably knew a lot more then they let on.
>>
> ffs "Michelin probably knew a lot more then they let on" they said the
> fuckin' tyres were going to explode on turn 13 at racing speed what more
> could they do?

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SDS - 02 Jul 2005 19:12 GMT
Unbelieveable!!

> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos in
> Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> T308
Phil Newnham - 03 Jul 2005 01:58 GMT
> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
> Indy.  Scary stuff...
>
> http://tbk.fameflame.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19543

Cheers for that.

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The Wizard - 03 Jul 2005 02:41 GMT
| > Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
| > in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
| > Indy.  Scary stuff...
| >
| > http://tbk.fameflame.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19543

Is it me or does that look very similar to something done in paint shop pro
with the clone brush?
touching up some pics the other day,I went a little too close and accidently
went over where I should'nt...Certainly looks similar?

T.W.
Phil Newnham - 03 Jul 2005 16:45 GMT
> | > Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> | > in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> touching up some pics the other day,I went a little too close and accidently
> went over where I should'nt...Certainly looks similar?

Oh jaysus. Please don't start that again, we had enough trouble with
that bloody aeroplane photo!

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rst - 03 Jul 2005 16:52 GMT
> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> LIVERPOOL FC - European Champions 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005

Case closed.  And there were at least 180k at Magny-Cours today, so
things are pretty well back to normal.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 03 Jul 2005 17:55 GMT
>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Case closed.  And there were at least 180k at Magny-Cours today, so
> things are pretty well back to normal.

I'd heard 160k for the weekend, 80k+ today.

T308

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Da Frank - 04 Jul 2005 05:24 GMT
>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>I'd heard 160k for the weekend, 80k+ today.

http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3263/741.html

"No fewer than 160,000 spectators have enjoyed the spectacle during
the three days of the race weekend. Strong publicity by the organisers
has drawn in the fans, with 30,000 attending on Friday, 50,000 on
Saturday and 80,000 for the race itself"

Which to me is a bit sad. In Australia we get well over 200,000 for
the weekend with a usual 100,000+ on race day. Considering our
population(~20 mill) and that from any decent sized country it would
be a 6+ hour flight to get here, the French GP seems like a flop.

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william lynch - 04 Jul 2005 06:32 GMT
>>>>Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>>>>in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> population(~20 mill) and that from any decent sized country it would
> be a 6+ hour flight to get here, the French GP seems like a flop.

Have you seen just how far from *anything* that track is?
Magny-Cours is the literal middle of nowhere, so 80k is
not too bad.
Automatic Jack - 04 Jul 2005 06:46 GMT
> the French GP seems like a flop.

It was certainly boring enough.

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Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 03 Jul 2005 23:08 GMT
>> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Case closed.  And there were at least 180k at Magny-Cours today, so
>things are pretty well back to normal.

...Lying scumbag, if they get 180k for the weekend they'll be
buggering each other in the churches in celebration.
faux_ferrari@yahoo.com - 04 Jul 2005 07:34 GMT
> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
> Indy.  Scary stuff...
>
> http://tbk.fameflame.dk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19543

But we are and will still hear idiots saying the Michelin teams were
cowards for not racing, that it was their fault for not putting on a
proper race.

Michelin may have screwed up, but a chicane would not have hurt the
Bridgestone teams.  It was clearly the FIA who didn't want a proper
race, not the Michelin teams.
Scott Buchanan - 06 Jul 2005 04:41 GMT
Ya, but we don't know if the tire was properly inflated.
If the tire was damaged by collision with debris.
If it was mounted on the correct size rim.
It certainly does not reflect what to expect from Michelin for road use.

> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> LIVERPOOL FC - European Champions 1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005
Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 06 Jul 2005 12:33 GMT
>> Forgive if this has been posted before, but here's a link to the photos
>> in Autosprint showing the Michelin sidewalls deforming on the banking at
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>If it was mounted on the correct size rim.
>It certainly does not reflect what to expect from Michelin for road use.

[Blink.  Blink-blink.]

..."Mounted on the correct size rim"...

In the words of Lewis Black:  Why the f.ck open your mouth?
Paul Duffin - 06 Jul 2005 22:08 GMT
>>Ya, but we don't know if the tire was properly inflated.
>>If the tire was damaged by collision with debris.
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>
> ..."Mounted on the correct size rim"...

Well, those metric/imperial conversions can be a bitch.

-Paul
Formerly on  TRX, now on Eagle F1 with new wheels
(but only cos Michelin stopped making them)
Automatic Jack - 06 Jul 2005 23:11 GMT
> Ya, but we don't know if the tire was properly inflated.
> If the tire was damaged by collision with debris.
> If it was mounted on the correct size rim.
> It certainly does not reflect what to expect from Michelin for road use.

I wish you RAS guys would stop bothering me.  I'm busy trying to find
some Danica Patrick nude pics!!  FHM only teases with their shot of DP
in a cockpit, a blue man's shirt unbuttoned, revealing just a hint of
the swell of small but admittedly luscious breasts .... surely sporting
what I believe the English call "puffies".

DP in a cockpit ... hmmm, the porn pun shop is now open 24/7!

And now, back to this evening's family-oriented entertainment.

MC

Who saw somebody named Bronte Tagliani in Autoweek this morning and
almost lost Danica, and his coffee ....

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Tiger Racing - 07 Jul 2005 09:24 GMT
<<I'm busy trying to find some Danica Patrick nude pics!!  FHM only
teases with their shot of DP in a cockpit, a blue man's shirt
unbuttoned, revealing just a hint of the swell of small but admittedly
luscious breasts>>

Oh, dear, you must be kidding. The poor woman has the body of a 12 yr
old boy. If you put a long haired wig on Max Angelelli, you couldn't
tell the difference between the two of them from the back. No offense,
Max!

C.
Automatic Jack - 07 Jul 2005 09:29 GMT
> Oh, dear, you must be kidding. The poor woman has the body of a 12 yr
> old boy. If you put a long haired wig on Max Angelelli, you couldn't
> tell the difference between the two of them from the back. No offense,
> Max!
>
> C.

Maybe I was looking at somebody else .... but I sure thought it was her.
 A 12 year old boy?  Something's wrong with me.  I like to think I'm
freaky, but .........

:-(

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Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 07 Jul 2005 12:49 GMT
>> Oh, dear, you must be kidding. The poor woman has the body of a 12 yr
>> old boy. If you put a long haired wig on Max Angelelli, you couldn't
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>:-(

Apparently some people's definition of woman excludes anyone who
doesn't have a set of bolt-on plastic tits, lipo-harvested ass-fat in
their lips or been sluiced in Clairol Bimbo No.5, all bought and paid
for by daddy, no doubt, sugar, or otherwise.

It's like the difference between driving Rahal-Letterman's Indy car,
and some POS Mustang beater.
Tiger Racing - 07 Jul 2005 18:54 GMT
<<Apparently...>>

Apparently you're not reading for comprehension again.

<< some people's definition of woman excludes anyone who doesn't have a
set of bolt-on plastic tits, lipo-harvested ass-fat in their lips or
been sluiced in Clairol Bimbo No.5>>

I've gone under the knife at least 15 times and not once was it for
some self-indulgent or socially pressured cosmetic surgery. My scars
are well earned and do nothing to detract from my genetically endowed
gifts. Patrick may be able to race circles around me, but the poor
woman has been shortchanged in other areas.

<<all bought and paid for by daddy, no doubt, sugar, or otherwise.>>

Dad pays for the racing. Mom's the one to thank for my great rack.

<<It's like the difference between driving Rahal-Letterman's Indy car,
and some POS Mustang beater.>>

I do wonder why you think anyone cares how you feel about much of
anything, let alone my race car. Or is it really just that you love the
sound of your own typing?

C.
Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 08 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
> Dad pays for the racing. Mom's the one to thank for my great rack.

Ok, you owe me one keyboard.  Diet coke is damn difficult to get out
from between the keys...

T308

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Tiger Racing - 10 Jul 2005 20:35 GMT
<<Ok, you owe me one keyboard.  Diet coke is damn difficult to get out
from between the keys...>>

The Mondial is taking a trip to FOC this week, so I'm a bit strapped
for cash, but I'd be happy to replace the Diet Coke.

C.
Automatic Jack - 08 Jul 2005 08:34 GMT
>Patrick may be able to race circles around me, but the poor
> woman has been shortchanged in other areas.

Not if the little dibbies do it for ya.  Oh, Daddy!  Let me at her.

> Dad pays for the racing. Mom's the one to thank for my great rack.

I do have to second that, not that I wish to be immodest.  I wasn't
looking, that's for sure.  Matt mentioned it to me.

> I do wonder why you think anyone cares how you feel about much of
> anything, let alone my race car. Or is it really just that you love the
> sound of your own typing?

Wait a minute.  I like the sound of my own typing!!

M

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matt  borland - 09 Jul 2005 00:15 GMT
> > Dad pays for the racing. Mom's the one to thank for my great rack.
>
> I do have to second that, not that I wish to be immodest.  I wasn't
> looking, that's for sure.  Matt mentioned it to me.

<spit take> PFFFFFFTT!!!

What?!

Rat bastard...

-Matt- "..."
Tiger Racing - 10 Jul 2005 20:42 GMT
<<Not if the little dibbies do it for ya.  Oh, Daddy!  Let me at her.>>

Obviously attraction is subjective. I prefer that men have masculine
bodies and women have feminine bodies. Of course, I may have felt
differently if Fate had gifted me differently.

<<I do have to second that, not that I wish to be immodest.  I wasn't
looking, that's for sure.  Matt mentioned it to me.>>

Heh. As long as somebody noticed.

C.
Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 08 Jul 2005 12:53 GMT
><< some people's definition of woman excludes anyone who doesn't have a
>set of bolt-on plastic tits, lipo-harvested ass-fat in their lips or
>been sluiced in Clairol Bimbo No.5>>
>
>I've gone under the knife at least 15 times

"ME ME ME"...

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Automatic Jack - 08 Jul 2005 08:30 GMT
> Apparently some people's definition of woman excludes anyone who
> doesn't have a set of bolt-on plastic tits, lipo-harvested ass-fat in
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> It's like the difference between driving Rahal-Letterman's Indy car,
> and some POS Mustang beater.

Yikes.  And the artillery exchanges continue.  One of my favorite Roger
Waters songs is called "The Bravery of Being Out of Range" (re: Gulf War
I).  You  guys don't really subscribe to that theory, if a newsgroup can
be considered "up close and personal".  Be nice, kiddies.

M

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Bacchus, not the Magoo guy - 08 Jul 2005 12:53 GMT
>> Apparently some people's definition of woman excludes anyone who
>> doesn't have a set of bolt-on plastic tits, lipo-harvested ass-fat in
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>I).  You  guys don't really subscribe to that theory, if a newsgroup can
>be considered "up close and personal".  Be nice, kiddies.

...Insufferable twat.
Rev Don - 09 Jul 2005 18:09 GMT
>> Ya, but we don't know if the tire was properly inflated.
>> If the tire was damaged by collision with debris.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> DP in a cockpit ... hmmm, the porn pun shop is now open 24/7!

I hpoe you finished your homework first.

> And now, back to this evening's family-oriented entertainment.
>
> MC
>
> Who saw somebody named Bronte Tagliani in Autoweek this morning and
> almost lost Danica, and his coffee ....

Who  has plastic tits, and could do with a visit to the pie shop.
Automatic Jack - 09 Jul 2005 20:53 GMT
>>I wish you RAS guys would stop bothering me.  I'm busy trying to find
>>some Danica Patrick nude pics!!  FHM only teases with their shot of DP
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I hpoe you finished your homework first.

Ooooooh - Service!

Very funny, "Rev".  I'll guess you're joking.

> Who  has plastic tits, and could do with a visit to the pie shop.

So you like those REAL women, eh?  Bully for you!  If I meet a woman who
to me is attractive, kind, funny, intelligent, articulate, and
compassionate - my criteria - I don't care if she's made entirely out of
plastic.  You must stick strictly to those "natural" types who could
raise birds in their pubic area and knock over a freighter with their
body odor.  You know, French women.

Return!

MC

DFWM

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Rev Don - 09 Jul 2005 22:20 GMT
> Very funny, "Rev".  I'll guess you're joking.

Why did you quote "Rev"?
Automatic Jack - 09 Jul 2005 23:34 GMT
>>Very funny, "Rev".  I'll guess you're joking.
>
> Why did you quote "Rev"?

Is "Rev Don" not your handle?  I just shorten things because I'm lazy
and I like to be familiar with strangers.  Hey, it's the wild, wild web
- you could be an 800-lb Russian woman waiting for a crane to take her
to the doctor ... how would I know?  I could have called you anything
else, I suppose.  My name is Mike but I've been called much, much worse.

;-)

MC

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Rev Don - 10 Jul 2005 19:14 GMT
>>> Very funny, "Rev".  I'll guess you're joking.
>>
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> else, I suppose.  My name is Mike but I've been called much, much
> worse.

My name's Don, and although formally, my correct title would start with
"the Reverend", I normally use the abbreviated form when I do use it.  I
wasn't questioning your use of Rev, but the fact that you quoted it,
which would only be appropriate if I hadn't in fact been ordained.
Automatic Jack - 10 Jul 2005 23:37 GMT
> My name's Don, and although formally, my correct title would start with
> "the Reverend", I normally use the abbreviated form when I do use it.  I
> wasn't questioning your use of Rev, but the fact that you quoted it,
> which would only be appropriate if I hadn't in fact been ordained.

Good thing you mentioned that.  I wouldn't want to cuss at you.  I've
never even lurked at rasf, so I had no idea you were a minister.

My last post was more or less comparing the qualities I prefer in a
woman to your assessment of Ms. Tagliani.  Plastic doesn't bother me, if
you were referring to body part supplements.  If you were referring to
her nature/style/way she acts, etc., well, I've never seen her on Spike
TV, or anything else she's done, but if she's an airhead then I wouldn't
be interested in her anyway, no matter how she looked or if by some
planetary alignment she was not married or seeing anybody and professed
interest in me.  From a couple of interviews I've read online, she seems
intelligent, but I don't waste my time with Spike TV.

I think I'm just going to end this conversation now, if you don't mind!
 I've been known to be somewhat profane in my home group (aaf), and one
point I was close to laying some on you, and now I feel a bit ashamed of
myself.

Best wishes -

MC

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Rev Don - 09 Jul 2005 22:20 GMT
>>> I wish you RAS guys would stop bothering me.  I'm busy trying to
>>> find some Danica Patrick nude pics!!  FHM only teases with their
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> could raise birds in their pubic area and knock over a freighter with
> their body odor.  You know, French women.

But you didn't meet her, you only saw pictures.
Automatic Jack - 09 Jul 2005 23:34 GMT
> But you didn't meet her, you only saw pictures.

And you did?  I'm not sure if you're talking about Patrick or Tagliani,
but I'm pretty sure I could meet either one and get wood.  I wasn't
talking about sweet talk in a restaurant or a walk down the aisle.

M

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Rev Don - 10 Jul 2005 19:25 GMT
>> But you didn't meet her, you only saw pictures.
>
> And you did?  I'm not sure if you're talking about Patrick or
> Tagliani, but I'm pretty sure I could meet either one and get wood.
> I wasn't talking about sweet talk in a restaurant or a walk down the
> aisle.

No, I didn't meet her.  I only raised the point because *you* said

"If I meet a woman who to me is attractive, kind, funny, intelligent,
articulate, and compassionate - my criteria - I don't care if she's made
entirely out of plastic."

I don't see how you can judge any of "kind, funny, intelligent,
articulate, and compassionate" from pictures.

BTW - I was referring to Tagliani, since I think there's been enough
discusion of the merits and demerits of Patrick already in this group.

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