Ferrari 355 and Berlinetta

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williammaw@aol.com - 07 Oct 2005 23:49 GMT

Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?

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matt borland - 08 Oct 2005 03:01 GMT

> Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
>
> Thanks ...

The term Berlinetta is used on several models to describe a
coupe without a removable panel.

So some 355s are Berlinettas, but not all Berlinettas are 355s.

If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.

-Matt- "..."

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Paul Duffin - 08 Oct 2005 09:30 GMT

"matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote

> If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.

ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
it not? as in 250 SWB?

...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model at
the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package. 'Great To
Buy!' variants usualy were packed with extras to help boost their appeal
to a wider market- such things as custom clip-on wheel covers, animal
print seat covers, extra chrome, a sub-woofer, dual cup holder, vouchers
for free 'happy meals', that sort of thing.

MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
(looks nervously around for T308)

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gsd - 08 Oct 2005 15:11 GMT

> "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote
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> MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
> (looks nervously around for T308)

So GTC would be Great to Covet? Just a little higher priced than the
GTB and out of reach?

J

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Paul Duffin - 08 Oct 2005 22:49 GMT

>> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model
>> at the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package.
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> So GTC would be Great to Covet? Just a little higher priced than the
> GTB and out of reach?

Yes. That's exactly correct.

Paul -Very expert Ferrari historian
(Phew! still no sign of T308)

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Iain Miller - 09 Oct 2005 03:02 GMT

> "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote
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> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!',

and GTS....?????

(Sadly, the first thing that came to mind was "Great to scrap"!!!)

I.

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Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 10 Oct 2005 06:13 GMT

>>"matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote
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"Great to Sell"!

T308
(Who is selling his 308 GTS!!)

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Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 10 Oct 2005 06:08 GMT

> "matt borland" <mborland@columbus.rr.com> wrote
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>>If you see a "GTB", "SWB", etc. the 'B' is for Berlinetta.
>
> ex-squeeze me, but I think the latter is actually 'Short Wheel Base', is
> it not? as in 250 SWB?

You are an expert!

> ...and I *think* GTB is 'Great To Buy!', usually applied to a model at
> the end of it's life, indicating a run-out incentive package. 'Great To
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> MCPD - Noted Ferrari historian
> (looks nervously around for T308)

You rang?

GTB means (if you bought one in 2001) "Goin' to Bank".

T308
(Who can't believe that he passed on a nice yellow GTB in 2001 because
it was "too expensive")

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gsd - 08 Oct 2005 15:09 GMT

matt borland wrote:

>>Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
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> -Matt- "..."

Hmmm, and all these years, I thought the SWB was for Short Wheel Base.

J

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matt borland - 09 Oct 2005 00:00 GMT

> matt borland wrote:
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Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...

-Matt- "Noted Ferrari historian, my (_|_)!"

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Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 10 Oct 2005 06:12 GMT

matt borland wrote:

>>matt borland wrote:
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> Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...

And that means cars like S/N 2407, a 400SA SWB Cab, is a
"400 Superamerica Short Wheelbase Berlinetta Cabriolet"??

T308
(Who knows that Ferrari nomenclature is anything but consistent..)

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matt borland - 10 Oct 2005 22:19 GMT

> matt borland wrote:
> > Fellas, it stands for "Short Wheelbase Berlinetta"...
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> T308

Crap. Never thought of that...

*grumble*
...stupid Ferrari with their confusing nomenclature...

Thought I was hot sh.t there for a second though...

-Matt- (still grumbling)

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Tifosi 308 (The Serial Number Geek) - 10 Oct 2005 06:49 GMT

matt borland wrote:

>>matt borland wrote:
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> -Matt- "Noted Ferrari historian, my (_|_)!"

As far as the factory was concerned, the "250 SWB" was a 250/GT
Berlinetta (Lusso or Comp) with a 2400mm wheelbase. "SWB" is a nice
descriptor, but since they didn't speak much English in Maranello, 250
CIB (Corto Interasse Berlinetta) would have been more likely.

T308
(Who is a LWB.....)

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williammaw@aol.com - 11 Oct 2005 07:36 GMT

I think you are correct. Here's a 456 GT Berlinetta on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-Ferrari-456GT-Berlinetta_W0QQitemZ4581292211
QQcategoryZ6212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Cheers ...

> > Those who know Ferraris, is a 355 the same as a Berlinetta?
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