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Fiat Punto Overheating

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ST - 02 May 2006 20:45 GMT
HELP!!!
My wife has a 2001 "Y" Fiat Punto 1.2 8V. The problem we have is it
seems to leak water out the rad cap and if the header is on cold the
temperature gauge wizzes up and the car overheats. If when the gauge
starts wizzing up she moves the heater control to hot then the gauge
goes back to normal. The heater works fine and there is no oil in the
water to indicate a head gasket problem. I have changed the rad cap
just in case but this has made no difference.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
SteveH - 02 May 2006 21:00 GMT
> HELP!!!
> My wife has a 2001 "Y" Fiat Punto 1.2 8V. The problem we have is it
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> just in case but this has made no difference.
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

There's 2 possibilities.

Worst case, it's got a blown head gasket.

Best case, it's a knackered water pump.

You need to get it pressure tested at a garage to determine which is the
problem.

If it's the head gasket, have the water pump changed at the same time,
because it *will* need replacing at some point very soon....

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Nick  ///// - 02 May 2006 22:22 GMT
Would also add there is the possibility of a large airlock in the radiator.

Check for bleed screws/points at the top of the radiator AND on all water
hoses.

The car heater matrix is generally at a lower level than the maximum water
hight in the cooling system.

Nick /////

>> HELP!!!
>> My wife has a 2001 "Y" Fiat Punto 1.2 8V. The problem we have is it
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> If it's the head gasket, have the water pump changed at the same time,
> because it *will* need replacing at some point very soon....
ST - 02 May 2006 23:30 GMT
Thanks, i'll check the airlock.
The Enforcer ]:o[ - 02 May 2006 23:58 GMT
> Thanks, i'll check the airlock.

What about a blocked radiator, or a knackered thermostat?
ST - 02 May 2006 23:29 GMT
Thanks for the quick response. If it was the head gasket would i not
see signs of oil in the water? Is there a way of seing if the water
pump has gone?
Regards
Nick  ///// - 03 May 2006 19:31 GMT
Oil in water is not always present.

Check for bubbles in radiator/header tank

As for water pump the only sure way is to remove it.  Another method is to
wait till the engine is warm, shut off the car heater controls (set to
cold), and then manually restrict the top/bottom and bypass water hoses.
e.g. clamp the bypass hose fully then manually squeeze the radiator hose.  A
point will come where noise/vibration/flow can be sensed.  How you determine
if this is normal or not I don't know :-)  Of course higher engine revs will
increase flow and 'feeling'.

I'm assuming your Punto has a header tank in which case there will be a
small top return hose.  This should be pushing water into the top of the
header tank.  Depending on the visibility of the plastic you may be able to
see the varying flow with engine revs.  If not you can disconnect this hose,
extend it and poke it into the header tank cap hole and water the discharge
rate.

These are all 'off the cuff' suggestions and may leave you in a bigger
dilema than ever!

Nick /////
> Thanks for the quick response. If it was the head gasket would i not
> see signs of oil in the water? Is there a way of seing if the water
> pump has gone?
> Regards
SteveH - 03 May 2006 19:37 GMT
> Oil in water is not always present.
>
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> These are all 'off the cuff' suggestions and may leave you in a bigger
> dilema than ever!

I'm going from my experience of a Cinq. Sporting (1.1 version of the
same FIRE lump). Initially we replaced the radiator, then the
thermostat, then the fan switch, before suspecting a blown head gasket.
It was cured in an afternoon of contorting myself under the bonnet to
replace the waterpump and cambelt.
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