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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / December 2006

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Fiat Marea ELX Weekend Getting hard to start

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nearyh@clara.net - 09 Dec 2006 18:12 GMT
Has anyone any ideas please. The car is a 1.8 Litre petrol and
although the engine turns over quite heathily, occasionally it can be
very hard to get it to "fire".

Once running there is no misfire or anything abnormal and the engine
runs perfectly. In fact most times the thing will start at the first
turn of the key.

The problem can occur at anytime and engine temperature does not
affect the fault.

The car has just been serviced also.

Is this a common problem? Can anyone suggest a reason/ cure?

HN
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 09 Dec 2006 20:30 GMT
> Is this a common problem? Can anyone suggest a reason/ cure?

You don't say the age.
Did have a case where a flexible fuel ink between the tank pipe and the engine
side pipe was perished and porous. Overnight there was fuel drainback towards
the tank, and on cranking it was pulling mostly air. Eventually, if the battery
wasn't flattened first, it got enough fuel to start. Rest of the day it was fine.
Come morning crank for ages.
Just one possibility, took a while to find this one as the flexible link was
well hidden.
nearyh@clara.net - 10 Dec 2006 03:35 GMT
>> Is this a common problem? Can anyone suggest a reason/ cure?
>
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>Just one possibility, took a while to find this one as the flexible link was
>well hidden.

Now that sounds evil! I can imagine the problems trying to sort that
one.

My car is about eight years old, it has done 82 thousand.

BTW the car is used infrequently as I only use it for fishing trips,
holidays and the odd trek out, so it can stand sometimes for weeks
without being used. Even after standing, usually the first turn of the
key gets it going.

HN
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 10 Dec 2006 11:11 GMT
> >You don't say the age.
> >Did have a case where a flexible fuel ink between the tank pipe and the engine
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>
> My car is about eight years old, it has done 82 thousand.

The reason for the flexible link is obvious, the engine moves slightly
on it's mounts, so a solid fuel line would be continuously flexing and
eventually fracture, plus engines come as a separate
assy to the body, so a flexible link is necessary and convenient.
That is until the tube perishes from age and flexing, then first of
all it gets porous, that's when the starting trouble starts, the fuel tanl
being lower than the fuel pump and metering system, fuel
drains back.
May not be your problem but it's worth checking.
I first thought ignition, plenty of sparks, must be fuel, moved on to it's
the fuel pump diaphragm, found it wasn't that, having wasted a couple
of hours, eventually nailed this 3 inch bit of flexible pipe hidden behind
other pipes and wiring looms. Bingo that's fixed it.
 
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