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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / July 2007

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Central Locking isn't. Fiat Marea 115 ELX W Reg.

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Another Dave - 07 May 2007 11:32 GMT
The car is almost at the end of its life so a quick bodge will suffice.
When trying to lock the car all the locks come up again. When the
ignition is on, the red warning light indicating that something is still
open comes on. I've double-checked and slammed everything but no luck.
Is it possible to remove a fuse and revert to manual locking?
Any other ideas?

Another Dave
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Kenny - 07 May 2007 16:07 GMT
>The car is almost at the end of its life so a quick bodge will suffice.
>When trying to lock the car all the locks come up again. When the
>ignition is on, the red warning light indicating that something is still
>open comes on. I've double-checked and slammed everything but no luck.
>Is it possible to remove a fuse and revert to manual locking?
>Any other ideas?

Check that the interior handles aren't sticking out slightly. This
happens to my 99 Bravo sometimes, the handle on the drivers door sticks
slightly, sometimes causing this symptom.
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Another Dave - 07 May 2007 16:29 GMT
> Check that the interior handles aren't sticking out slightly. This
> happens to my 99 Bravo sometimes, the handle on the drivers door sticks
> slightly, sometimes causing this symptom.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've been out and tried all the interior
handles. No luck I'm afraid.

Another Dave

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Nick ///// - 08 May 2007 19:43 GMT
>> Check that the interior handles aren't sticking out slightly. This
>> happens to my 99 Bravo sometimes, the handle on the drivers door
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> Another Dave

Could try a liberal dosing of WD40 throught the moving door catch
mechanics.  Sometimes the latch/pawl does not return fully home and this
causes the solenoid to signal a problem.

If this doesn't work then it is an interior door panel off job so one
can actually access the door lock internal linkages to lubricate and
check for correct operation.  After that one is down to looking for
broken wires in the door jam areas.  Common problem on older cars as the
wires eventually fatigue and fracture due to all the flexing with door
opening and closing.  Start looking on the drivers door as this is most
likely to be the culprit.  You can also disconnect the solenoid
connectors to revert to 'manual' mode on a door by door basis.

As for disconnecting the whole central locking it can be done but I
don't know the location and wiring of the central locking ECU for your
vehicle.

Nick /////
Another Dave - 08 May 2007 21:00 GMT
> Could try a liberal dosing of WD40 throught the moving door catch
> mechanics.  Sometimes the latch/pawl does not return fully home and this
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> Nick /////

Thanks for for all the info but talking about it coming to the end of
its life seems to have scared the car into behaving itself again -
although I had to take it to the tip (en route to Tesco) to finally
convince it.
If it happens again I'll do what you suggest.

Another Dave

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Nick ///// - 08 May 2007 21:45 GMT
>> Could try a liberal dosing of WD40 throught the moving door catch
>> mechanics.  Sometimes the latch/pawl does not return fully home and
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> Another Dave

Hopefully a long lived success!  I hate it when one is finally driven to
 spending time and effort into investigating a problem only to have the
problem disappear before one is able to apply the long lived and sought
after information.

Fingers crossed

Nick /////
Jolly - 06 Jul 2007 23:20 GMT
>>> Could try a liberal dosing of WD40 throught the moving door catch
>>> mechanics.  Sometimes the latch/pawl does not return fully home and
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> Nick /////

Had exact same problem on my old marea, Its an eay fix - just take the
bulb out of the boot light.

On these mk 2 mareas and brava/os post 2000 ish, theres a safety feature
on the central locking preventing the doors from locking if any of them
are open. Detection is through the interior light circuits.

Any load on the courtesy light cuircuits and the central locking will
pop open all your locks within a second of you turning the key to lock
them.

There are TWO seperate courtesy light circuits, one for the 4 passenger
doors and one for the boot light. If your interior courtesy lights are
working properly the fault must be with the boot light.

It's a simple enough task to trace the wiring from the microswitch on
the boot lock stricker to the boot lamp and check for damage. Although
the bulb holder is a poorly designed thing without any shrouding around
the contacts and is probably the culprit. If the live feed shorts the
fuse blows, no boot lamp no problem but if the return wire shorts it
will place a load on the circuit and confuse the central locking to
thinking the boot is open.

It's even more confusing because the boot lamp itself goes out
automaticaly after 10 minutes or so so there's way you can just look
through the rear seats and check if the light is on. don't ask me ask
FIAT.

If a problem can't be found and rectified, the simple answer is to
remove the bulb from the boot lamp. Without a bulb there won't be a load
and without a load the doors will lock. Simple.

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