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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / September 2003

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Tipo PTC relay ,,Where is the stat

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mike - 15 Sep 2003 11:33 GMT
I just discovered that what I thought was a rattle next to the fuse and
relay cluster is in fact the PTC relay clicking on and off, lookes like from
the elec' drawing that it is switched by a fuel heat stat but where is this
stat  to save me trawling all over the intake etc, and what does PTC stand
for.
Thanks
Mark W - 16 Sep 2003 21:07 GMT
> I just discovered that what I thought was a rattle next to the fuse and
> relay cluster is in fact the PTC relay clicking on and off, lookes like from
> the elec' drawing that it is switched by a fuel heat stat but where is this
> stat  to save me trawling all over the intake etc, and what does PTC stand
> for.
> Thanks

The PTC heater is located under the inlet manifold. As it heats up, the
electrical resistance increases until it stops conducting. I don't think it
turns the relay off, that is turned on by the ignition and stays on although
no current passes through once the PTC unit is hot.

I had a problem on my car with the dashboard fuse blowing intermittently
together with the PTC fuse, so I have disabled mine by removing the PTC
fuse, and there are no ill effects.
kemp.hakan - 17 Sep 2003 21:42 GMT
If you man PTC as in temperature mesaurement it stands for Positive
temperatre coifficent.

And that means that it's a pobe with a temperature sensitive resistor
element wich changes its resistance =(higher resistance with higher
temperature )

In the heater case it's logical..
Cold = low resistance = high current flowing thru resistor = enough to
contol someting (relay ?)
Warm engine = high resistance = low current thru resistor probe = blocks
somethng

Could be a loose wire to hr probe, just check that circuit ith a simple ohm
meter  WITH THE ENGINE ON = rattles a bt will cause the symptom sometimes !

Good luck !
(hope this was on the right track !)

> > I just discovered that what I thought was a rattle next to the fuse and
> > relay cluster is in fact the PTC relay clicking on and off, lookes like
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> together with the PTC fuse, so I have disabled mine by removing the PTC
> fuse, and there are no ill effects.
kemp.hakan - 18 Sep 2003 21:06 GMT
Correction
> If you mean PTC as in temperature mesaurement it stands for Positive
> temperatre coifficent.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> contol someting (relay ?)
> Warm engine = high resistance = low current through resistor probe =
blocks
> somethng
>
> Could be a loose wire to the probe, just check that circuit with a simple
Ohm
> meter  WITH THE ENGINE ON = rattles a bit, will cause the symptom again
???!

> Good luck !
> (hope this was on the right track !)
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> > together with the PTC fuse, so I have disabled mine by removing the PTC
> > fuse, and there are no ill effects.
mike - 20 Sep 2003 04:50 GMT
> I just discovered that what I thought was a rattle next to the fuse and
> relay cluster is in fact the PTC relay clicking on and off, lookes like from
> the elec' drawing that it is switched by a fuel heat stat but where is this
> stat  to save me trawling all over the intake etc, and what does PTC stand
> for.
> Thanks

thanks folks got time to check it out today, found broken wire, the clicking
was it trying to energise the relay which it hadn't been doing in the past,
when ithe wire  touched  it swiched relay on and the heater, looks like it
had not been working for a while because now the heater is working it goes
better >>>>>>
 
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