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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / October 2003

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Securing spare wheel in Fiat Uno

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Brian Sandle - 02 Oct 2003 11:55 GMT
The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
used?
ato_zee - 02 Oct 2003 21:26 GMT
>The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
>from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
>used?

In both of my Uno's, Mk1 and Mk2, the spare wheel is anchored by
a large washer and bolt, into a thread in the middle of the spare
wheel recess.

He can't be serious? Fiat put an unsecured jack and toolkit
inside the spare wheel. Just as hazardous. There is the carpet on top,
then the parcel shelf. Load up the boot with a few breeze blocks and
a bag of cement from the DIY - the spare wheel is the least of your
worries.

Are you sure that anchoring the spare wheel is a requirement, or is he
just trying to find something to fix for some more money? Get a strip
of metal and drill a hole (or a big washer) plus a metric bolt.

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Brian Sandle - 03 Oct 2003 12:24 GMT
In uk.rec.cars.maintenance ato_zee <ato_zee@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
>>from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
>>used?

> In both of my Uno's, Mk1 and Mk2, the spare wheel is anchored by
> a large washer and bolt, into a thread in the middle of the spare
> wheel recess.

This car is 1988, no thread or hole there.

> He can't be serious? Fiat put an unsecured jack and toolkit
> inside the spare wheel. Just as hazardous. There is the carpet on top,
> then the parcel shelf. Load up the boot with a few breeze blocks and
> a bag of cement from the DIY - the spare wheel is the least of your
> worries.

I suppose the wheel has a bit more mass.

> Are you sure that anchoring the spare wheel is a requirement, or is he
> just trying to find something to fix for some more money?

No, I went to a testing only station. He passed the car this time, but
said next time it probably won't.

Get a strip
> of metal and drill a hole (or a big washer) plus a metric bolt.

He suggested a strap across as being possible. I suppose that could hold
the jack in, too. I feel funny about drilling holes in the car body.

I asked what might be next on the list of items and he said they are
talking about shock absorbers.
Alan Gauton - 03 Oct 2003 14:08 GMT
> In uk.rec.cars.maintenance ato_zee <ato_zee@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> This car is 1988, no thread or hole there.

I had a Formula 91 model, and I'm fairly sure there was a bolt to hold
the wheel in place. There was definitely a hole in the bottom of the well
(as I found out when a whole 5l bottle of oil leaked out under the car
through it).

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Guy King - 02 Oct 2003 23:01 GMT
Brian Sandle <bsandle@shell.caverock.net.nz> mumbled:

> The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
> from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
> used?

Just take it out for the test.

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MrCheerful - 05 Oct 2003 08:02 GMT
> The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
> from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
> used?

IIRC the uno spare is under the bonnet?  If so then it can't really go far.
I have never heard of a loose spare wheel being any concern for MoT.  If it
is in the future then just leave the spare at home and take the car for a
test without, there is no requirement for a spare wheel.

MrCheerful
MrCheerful - 05 Oct 2003 08:05 GMT
> The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
> from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
> used?

In any case there is the non retrospective nature of MoT requirements:

"Original Design
Original vehicle design characteristics are to be accepted."

MrCheerful
Brian Sandle - 05 Oct 2003 08:48 GMT
In alt.autos.fiat MrCheerful <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> The warrant tester says that the spare needs to be anchored to stop it
>> from acting as a projectile if the car overturns. What methods have been
>> used?

> In any case there is the non retrospective nature of MoT requirements:

> "Original Design
> Original vehicle design characteristics are to be accepted."

> MrCheerful

But is the missing anchor a manufacture fault?

I had the same inspector 6 months ago, but only this occasion did he ask me
if the spare were secured. He was surprised when I showed him it and he
commented it had never been secured.
 
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