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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / August 2003

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Punto horrible problem with clutch/gears?

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Emmett Power - 05 Aug 2003 21:02 GMT
Hi,

I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a problem I'm having with my
P registration Punto 1.1 SX (I think).

This is what happens. I can put the car into gear when the car engine
is switched off. But when in gear I cannot start the car - the engine
won't turn over.

If I start the car in neutral it starts OK but there is a grinding
noise coming from the middle on the engine compartment. Once the
engine is switched on the car cannot be put into gear no matter how
hard I try. When I attempt to push the clutch down the clutch peddle
vibrates violently in a very unpleasant manner.

Does anybody have any suggestions as what is wrong and what I can do.
The car is immoble and as, we are a single car family with young
children, it is no fun. As the car is only worth £1,500 at most I
don't want to spend a lot of money on it.

Any help with be appreciate.

Regards

Emmett
Guy King - 05 Aug 2003 21:19 GMT
Emmett@Silico-Research.com (Emmett Power) mumbled:

> Does anybody have any suggestions as what is wrong and what I can do.

Clutch dead.

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Hellraiser - 05 Aug 2003 21:27 GMT
> Hi,
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> children, it is no fun. As the car is only worth ?1,500 at most I
> don't want to spend a lot of money on it.

New clutch needed. Budget around 200 quid for one fitted.

Hellraiser...........>
Phil Howard - 05 Aug 2003 21:46 GMT
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> Emmett

Doesn't sound good at all, and is definately clutch related.  There's no
point in replacing just the bit which has gone, so budget for a complete new
clutch.  Getting anyone to stick to a quote could be tricky; depends if
there's any more damage inside there.
Shop about for a price and bear in mind that some main dealers (not sure
about Fiat..) quote based on the job, not the time it'll take...

Slightly off post, but i do recall 2 people getting a clutch in a Metro;
quotes said Man-down-the-road would be cheaper than a main dealer by about
?20; Main dealer ended up cheaper because other bloke took 2 hours longer
than he reckoned (gave a parts +labour price, not an all in...)

Phil
Al Reynolds - 06 Aug 2003 06:44 GMT
Clutch.

Just had mine done at 65k.
Cost ?230 all-in.

If you are anywhere near Devon, use "Perfect Service" in
Newton Abbot (independent Fiat specialist).  He's a nice
guy, and reliable.

Oh, and if you have AA option 300, they will tow you to
the garage.  Otherwise you're looking at ?50 for the tow.

Don't use a Fiat main dealer as they will probably charge
you over ?400!

Al
firestarter - 06 Aug 2003 17:44 GMT
> Clutch.
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> Al

nice to see you mention perfect service, i'm sure pete will be very pleased
Al Reynolds - 07 Aug 2003 09:44 GMT
> nice to see you mention perfect service, i'm sure pete will be very pleased

Pete's a good guy.  I notice he now has a website
with service prices and special offers on some parts.
http://www.perfect-service.co.uk/

Al
Paul - 06 Aug 2003 10:44 GMT
Hi,

What you described happened to my Punto several months ago.  The
traval in the clutch petal had shortened considerably so that gear
changes were only possible with the petal to the floor.

After a few weeks, the gear change went completely with engagement of
first not possible with the engine running.

On stripping the gearbox from the car, it was clear that the thrust
bearing had started to carve a groove into the top of the pressure
plate springs.  I suspect this was due to either the bearing beginning
to dry out or else the previous owner resting their foot on the pedal
continuously.

After a while, two of the springs broke at the groove, meaning that
pressing the pedal only separated one half of the clutch and left the
other side still gripping.  Thus, the gearbox is not fully
disconnected and so selection is impossible.

To cut a long story short, as with what the other posting say, you
need a new three piece clutch kit.  A good motor factor should be able
to get this for about £80.  The job itself is straightforward,
especially if you have plenty of help.  Fiat were looking £260+VAT for
the job--other mechanics should charge about £150.

Hope this helps/is of interest

> Hi,
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> Emmett
Emmett Power - 06 Aug 2003 19:29 GMT
Thanks to everybody for your helpful postings.

Looks like I have to find myself a friendly mechanic and budget
£200-£300. At least I know what questions to ask.

Alas I have AA membership but not Homestart so I'll have to organise
the tow myself.

Regards

Emmett

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mike - 11 Aug 2003 06:59 GMT
Yes sounds like the thrust brearing has gone, replace it and have a new
clutch at the same time.
> Hi,
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> Emmett
 
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