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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / April 2004

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damzelindistress - 26 Apr 2004 00:36 GMT
hi

not long bought a used cinq but have no manual.  now a little red warning
light has come on that looks like a little hosepipe with stuff squirting
out has come on and i don't know what it means (i think its next to the
battery light).

can anyone help?

it normally comes on with ignition and goes off but today it came on as i
parked up and the engine chugged a lot.  the engine does normally seem a
little erratic when idling but this was particularly jerky!

is it normal for cinqs to be a little jerky while ticking over e.g at
traffic lights?

any help would be hugely appreciated!
Alien Zord - 26 Apr 2004 07:34 GMT
> not long bought a used cinq but have no manual.  now a little red warning
> light has come on that looks like a little hosepipe with stuff squirting
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> any help would be hugely appreciated!

"Injection system malfunction", generally means low fuel pressure. Replacing
the fuel filter is the first and cheapest option to try. If that does not
help then fuel pump would be next.
Andrew Portess - 26 Apr 2004 19:25 GMT
> > not long bought a used cinq but have no manual.  now a little red warning
> > light has come on that looks like a little hosepipe with stuff squirting
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> the fuel filter is the first and cheapest option to try. If that does not
> help then fuel pump would be next.

That approach could work out to be very expensive.  Get it to a FIat garage
and let them hook it up to their diagnostic kit; it will normally pinpoint
he problem straight away.  Far better than changing components one by one
until you find the problem.

Andy
Alien Zord - 27 Apr 2004 07:38 GMT
> > > not long bought a used cinq but have no manual.  now a little red
> warning
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>
> Andy

What a naive, simplistic and brainwashed point of view clearly showing total
engineering ineptitude. Car garages must love you.
Andrew Portess - 27 Apr 2004 21:02 GMT
> > > > not long bought a used cinq but have no manual.  now a little red
> > warning
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> What a naive, simplistic and brainwashed point of view clearly showing total
> engineering ineptitude. Car garages must love you.

I would disagree strongly with your comments Alien Zord and maybe respond by
saying car parts dealers must love you as it would appear that your
engineering aptitude would be along the approach of change everything until
the fault disappears.  Modern engineering concentrates on using technology
to address the root cause of the failure; the only downside to this being
that many garage mechanics cannot see past the diagnostic tester.  Seeing as
most home mechanics do not have diagnostic software at their disposal then
the dealership needs to perform the diagnostic, in many cases the vehicle
may need to be hooked up to the computer anyway to clear any fault codes
from the ECU post repair (depends if warning lamp illuminates due to
detected fault or ECU logged fault).  Just because the garage has diagnosed
the problem doesn't mean they have to fix it but the home mechanic can now
make informed purchases of the exact parts required.

Andy
undergraduate-car-mechanic - 27 Apr 2004 23:57 GMT
this is a great post, and this bit.
"many garage mechanics cannot see past the diagnostic tester"
i see this all the time, technicians becoming fitters.
i was trained too allways take the diagnostics tool diagnosis with a pinch
of salt :)
Andrew Portess - 29 Apr 2004 17:41 GMT
> this is a great post, and this bit.
> "many garage mechanics cannot see past the diagnostic tester"
> i see this all the time, technicians becoming fitters.
> i was trained too allways take the diagnostics tool diagnosis with a pinch
> of salt :)

I am sure you were but I had my last car at a dealership garage and it would
not start; they pushed it into the workshop and hooked it up to the
diagnostic and the mechanic reported there was nothing wrong with it - yet
it still wouldn't start!!!!!!!!!!

Andy
undergraduate-car-mechanic - 29 Apr 2004 22:13 GMT
maybe you had the garage grease monkey working on your car :)
just unlucky i guess.
undergraduate-car-mechanic - 27 Apr 2004 15:19 GMT
im assuming this is a 903cc cinq and not a cinq sporting.
it is indeed as Alien Zord said the fuel injection light, however this
does not mean low fuel pressure as Alien Zord wrongly said taking it to a
garage would be the best/cheepest thing too do.
903's dont break down very offten so i cant really guess what it could
be.
hope that helps.
Alien Zord - 27 Apr 2004 15:41 GMT
> im assuming this is a 903cc cinq and not a cinq sporting.
> it is indeed as Alien Zord said the fuel injection light, however this
> does not mean low fuel pressure as Alien Zord wrongly said taking it to a
> garage would be the best/cheepest thing too do.
> 903's dont break down very offten so i cant really guess what it could
> be.

If you haven't got a clue what it is how can you say that I'm wrong?
undergraduate-car-mechanic - 27 Apr 2004 19:11 GMT
there is no way for the engine ecu on this injection system too tell what
the fuel pressure is, its all pre set.
For the ecu too put up the warning light on,
one the sensors would be detected as faulty by the ecu, ie oc, sc or value
outside of specified limits.
a blocked fuel filter or faulty fuel pump could not do this.
some likly candidates for putting up this light with rough running are the
lambda sensor(most likly) coolant temp sensor, or map sensor.
however there is very little point it guessing what it could be, 1 min on
the diagnostic machine at your local dealer will tell you exactly what to
change.

 
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