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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / August 2004

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Uno ariel & where to get power

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Tony - 16 Jul 2004 22:05 GMT
I've an old Fiat Uno 79, but can't find the ariel plug.

I assumed that all cars had ariels pre-installed, but maybe not.

Does anyone know if its hidden somewhere?

Also.. where should I hook up the stereo power, so it turns off when I turn
off the engine.

Cheers

T
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 17 Jul 2004 07:28 GMT
> I've an old Fiat Uno 79, but can't find the ariel plug.
> I assumed that all cars had ariels pre-installed, but maybe not.
> Does anyone know if its hidden somewhere?
>
> Also.. where should I hook up the stereo power, so it turns off when I
> turn off the engine.

The Mk1 Uno used an aerial  mounted between the front door and
the wing. I had to buy a replacement from a Fiat dealer and it was
the same as the broken one I took off. From memory (it was some
years ago) Fiat only make one that fits on the left (passenger - UK)
side, fine for the continent LHD's, as it is then on the drivers (road)
side.
Over here on the pavement side it gets broken off (local yobs and country
lane overhanging bushes). Pain in the butt (welded fixing bracket) to
modify the Fiat one from LH side to RH side fitting, and, as fitted, the
door rubs against it leading finally to rust. Power can be taken
from any ignition switched feed.

> I've an old Fiat Uno 79, but can't find the ariel plug.
>
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> turn
> off the engine.
Tony - 17 Jul 2004 09:41 GMT
Thanks for the info.

My Uno has no outside ariel, my mechanic thought it might be hidden in the
screen.

Where can I locate the ignition feed... can you give me a few pointers as to
the best place to do this.

thanks

> > I've an old Fiat Uno 79, but can't find the ariel plug.
> > I assumed that all cars had ariels pre-installed, but maybe not.
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> > turn
> > off the engine.
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 18 Jul 2004 08:34 GMT
> Where can I locate the ignition feed... can you give me a few pointers as
> to  the best place to do this.

Your email addy bounces, I've copied this from the bounce, so it may be
weird formatting.

For low power stuff, ordinary radios/CD players etc, I've taken off the
plastic column shroud and picked up a connection from the switched side of
the ignition switch and put an in-line fuse immediately after the take off.
I assume that people with 120 Watt boom boxes put a relay in to switch the
higher power. Strictly speaking there is a fuse for such items on the fuse
panel,UK RHD, on the passenger LH side under the dash, problem is that it is
such a clutter of wires, and so inaccessible that I gave up on this. I think
Haynes manual lists an accessory fuse under fuses.

On the column is the headlight switch, this comes off the Ignition switched
supply (headlights go off with ignition off). The coil gets an ignition
switched feed but there is no point in bringing it back from there through
the bulkhead.

On two Unos Mk1 and Mk2 I've had the ignition switch pack up due to the
headlights, heater fan, heated screen, wipers, all going through the switch,
a price you pay for the lights not being accidentally left on. I think Fiat
should have fitted a headlamp relay like other cars.
I've done most Fiat jobs and met most of the problems. One tip, mud collects
on the Mk 1's above the pipe from the filler to the tank, under the wing.
This wodge of mud stays wet in winter, plus salt on roads, and rots the
inner wheel arch near the shock absorber mounting.
Water gts in, runs down into the sills, result MOT welding job.

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Peter Hucker - 18 Jul 2004 10:58 GMT
>> Where can I locate the ignition feed... can you give me a few pointers as
>> to  the best place to do this.
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> I assume that people with 120 Watt boom boxes put a relay in to switch the
> higher power.

Boom boxes have a "remote in", which is switched by the head unit (stereo).  So they can be wired direct to anything 12 volt and big.  Got a 2.8kW unit to fit sometime :-)

> Strictly speaking there is a fuse for such items on the fuse
> panel,UK RHD, on the passenger LH side under the dash, problem is that it is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> On the column is the headlight switch, this comes off the Ignition switched
> supply (headlights go off with ignition off).

I've had quite a few cars where the headlights work with the ignition off.  That's fine unless the bleeping thing when you open the door with the lights on fails!

> The coil gets an ignition
> switched feed but there is no point in bringing it back from there through
> the bulkhead.

That's what I've neever managed to do, get a wire through from the interior to under the bonnet!  I need smaller hands?

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Tony - 18 Jul 2004 11:14 GMT
Thanks

I'll attempt the challenge..

> > Where can I locate the ignition feed... can you give me a few pointers as
> > to  the best place to do this.
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Tony - 21 Jul 2004 11:00 GMT
>This wodge of mud stays wet in winter, plus salt on roads, and rots the
inner wheel arch near the shock absorber mounting.
Water gts in, runs down into the sills, result MOT welding job.

Thanks for the tip, unfortunately, I've just had to weld it for the MOT< if
only its last owner had read this newsgroup!
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 21 Jul 2004 20:11 GMT
> >This wodge of mud stays wet in winter, plus salt on roads, and rots the
> inner wheel arch near the shock absorber mounting.
> Water gts in, runs down into the sills, result MOT welding job.
>
> Thanks for the tip, unfortunately, I've just had to weld it for the MOT
> if only its last owner had read this newsgroup!

Make sure you also attend to the area around the upper shocker mount,
if not the shocker soon comes through the inner wheel arch.

Another useful tip

The winding windows water seal usually has a gap at each end, water
gets forced rearwards by the slipstream until it hits the rear upright,
from there it is forced downwards and sprays into the lock area, which
on the inside hidden face of the door has little (usually no) paint.
Door eventually rots around the lock which eventually comes away.
Finally the water runs down to the bottom of the door, into the seam
and you get a growing line of rust along the lower door.
PS don't try taking the winding mechanism with the cable off, it's a
major pain in the arse to get it back together, you can make a
tool from a hex socket to release the glass, which then just lifts
out leaving all the adjustments intact. Now you can, if needed, get
at the lock area. I suspect that with the right home made tool you
can remove the water seal on its own without disturbing anything
else, or chipping the paint and thereby creating another hidden water
trap.

Come back here if the engine starts cutting out, or you get water
in the boot, or in the passenger footwell. For the latter remember in
Italy it's a LHD so you need to know where the unused, unsealed,
LHD holes are in the bulkhead.
Tony - 01 Aug 2004 13:51 GMT
thanks

> > >This wodge of mud stays wet in winter, plus salt on roads, and rots the
> > inner wheel arch near the shock absorber mounting.
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> Italy it's a LHD so you need to know where the unused, unsealed,
> LHD holes are in the bulkhead.
 
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