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Car Forum / Fiat Cars / August 2004

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multipla engine start problems

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Dirk Scharpenberg - 11 Aug 2004 05:37 GMT
Hello everybody,

is there anybody out there who shares the same or similar engine starting
problems ?
Since a few monhs it takes minutes that my engine starts running or it
starts immediatly. There is no specific rule to find. Sometime it starts
at -10 degrees, sometimes not. Same at high temperature, sometimes not.
Sometimes the engine is hot, sometimes not. The engine control was checked
and showed no problem.

Fiat itself couldn't find a mistake !

It's a Multipla 1.9 JTD built in 1999.

Krgds...Dirk
Mindwipe - 12 Aug 2004 23:13 GMT
> Hello everybody,
>
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>
> Krgds...Dirk

sounds like an air leak in the fuel system
ato_zee@hotmail.com - 13 Aug 2004 06:47 GMT
> > Since a few monhs it takes minutes that my engine starts running or it
> > starts immediatly. There is no specific rule to find. Sometime it starts
> > at -10 degrees, sometimes not. Same at high temperature, sometimes not.
> > Sometimes the engine is hot, sometimes not. The engine control was
> > checked
> > and showed no problem.

> sounds like an air leak in the fuel system

Have met the same air leak in the fuel system problem, it was a
flexible (to take up engine movement) hose link buried behind
the engine. Fuel pump was sucking air, but with luck sometimes
it got a bit of fuel, started, then the pump turned fast enough to
keep the fuel flowing.
Dirk Scharpenberg - 14 Aug 2004 22:16 GMT
Which repair steps were done ?

> > > Since a few monhs it takes minutes that my engine starts running or it
> > > starts immediatly. There is no specific rule to find. Sometime it starts
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> it got a bit of fuel, started, then the pump turned fast enough to
> keep the fuel flowing.
Dirk Scharpenberg - 15 Aug 2004 22:18 GMT
Hi, thanks for the hint. I found the same. It dropped some diesel.
This morning the engine wont start again. Some people pushed the car five
meters then the engine started immediatly.  Tommorow i'll visit my fiat
garage and by a new one.

But i can't understand, why the garage didn't find that. You can see the
dropping diesel on first view. The car was there for at least two days to
find the mistake. They thought, it's a electric problem and wanted to sell
me a new control box !

Rgds...Dirk

> > > Since a few monhs it takes minutes that my engine starts running or it
> > > starts immediatly. There is no specific rule to find. Sometime it starts
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> it got a bit of fuel, started, then the pump turned fast enough to
> keep the fuel flowing.
Dirk Scharpenberg - 23 Aug 2004 23:20 GMT
Hello,
this wasn't the mistake. Any further hints ?

rgds Dirk

> Hi, thanks for the hint. I found the same. It dropped some diesel.
> This morning the engine wont start again. Some people pushed the car five
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> > it got a bit of fuel, started, then the pump turned fast enough to
> > keep the fuel flowing.

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