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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / June 2007

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Explorer Suspension Sucks!!  Help please!!

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MJT - 22 Jul 2003 02:49 GMT
Hi everyone!

I have a 1996 Ford Explorer 4x4 Eddie Bauer w/ 125,000 miles.  I know the
tires on the car are "hard" riding tires.  Also, I just put on new soft
riding shocks too.

However, the suspension feels loose and rides very hard.  Go over a bump or
hole and the whole car shakes.  The new shocks don't make a difference.

Any suggestions on what can be done to improve the suspension on the car to
ride smoother and not feel every little bump?  Should I do new springs?

Thank you!
- MJT
SizzleMP - 22 Jul 2003 11:12 GMT
>Hi everyone!
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>Thank you!
>- MJT

What kind of  tires you have? If they are extra load rated, they will ride
harder because of the stiffer sidewall. Look at the rating.
SkyOrDie - 22 Jul 2003 18:45 GMT
> Hi everyone!
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> Any suggestions on what can be done to improve the suspension on the car to
> ride smoother and not feel every little bump?  Should I do new springs?

You bought a TRUCK, not a Cadillac land barge.  Why are you surprised it
rides like a truck?  You bought a 4x4 which is especially surprising.
MJT - 23 Jul 2003 05:00 GMT
> You bought a TRUCK, not a Cadillac land barge.  Why are you surprised it
> rides like a truck?  You bought a 4x4 which is especially surprising.

I know it's a truck, I've owned trucks.  My point is that it doesn't ride
like when the vehicle was new...

I'm looking to find a way to restore that original ride feel.

Is there something that can be improved beyond the shocks, and tires?
Jim Warman - 23 Jul 2003 07:00 GMT
We first need to identify what it is that displeases you about the ride. Be
sure that your tires are load range C (sorry, these aren't my bag) and be
sure that the tire pressures are adjusted according to the Ford
recommendations...... this has little to do with what the tire sidewall
says. Also, shock selection is crucial.... you may choose a "performance"
shock without checking how the shock affects performance.... rough terrain
shocks are quite different from smooth road cornering shocks.

Has the ride height been altered? Are the tires and wheels original or at
least original size? You haven't given enar enough info for an accurate
diagnosis, but I get the feeling the answer is very, very simple.

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> > You bought a TRUCK, not a Cadillac land barge.  Why are you surprised it
> > rides like a truck?  You bought a 4x4 which is especially surprising.
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> Is there something that can be improved beyond the shocks, and tires?
Jim Warman - 23 Jul 2003 02:34 GMT
The suspension is loose and very hard... both at the same time???? I assume
this is yoiur first SUV and you haven't had it long? This is a truck with
four doors..... been a long time since I had a car so I can't compare. I
think my '92 is pretty nice... the 02 SuperCrew is a tad wishy washy since
they were trying for a car ride....

The only hard riding tires I can think of are load range E and up.... Irf
this is your first SUV, you will need to learn to deal with it. These aren't
cars..... never have been even though they sometimes pretend to be...

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> Hi everyone!
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> - MJT
Robert A. Matern - 23 Jul 2003 14:47 GMT
Hmmm...   soft riding shocks may not be the right choice...   if you want a
feel like when it was new...   use the type of shocks it had when it was
new.  The shocks may also be defective, since you noted that changing them
made no difference...

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> Thank you!
> - MJT
Herbie - 23 Jul 2003 22:45 GMT
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> Thank you!
> - MJT

Dump it and buy Japanese.  That is the only way you will improve
the ride handling...As a side benefit, replacing the explorer with a
Japanese make will also give you much better reliability and resale..
rakster - 24 Jul 2003 17:09 GMT
Suspension bushings, spring and shocks change strength with age, tires and
air pressure are also a major factor in ride quality.  Spring rates and
shock valving are major contributors as well.  And, what is good for my
perception of a good ride probably isn't anywhere near that for you.  Not
right or wrong, just what I like versus what you like.

Replace all the bushings, (including the body mounts), springs, put the
original tires on (that's tough as the design does change), original shocks
and you might have it feel close to "new".

> Hi everyone!
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> Thank you!
> - MJT
MJT - 25 Jul 2003 04:03 GMT
This is what I was looking for!  Thanks so much Rakster!

> Suspension bushings, spring and shocks change strength with age, tires and
> air pressure are also a major factor in ride quality.  Spring rates and
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Robert A. Matern - 22 Aug 2003 19:50 GMT
Make sure the support pillar/bracket holding the top of the shock & spring
has not bent/twisted/torn/broken as happened to me.  It rides really bad
then!

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volvodude - 26 Jun 2007 03:57 GMT
Had the same problem with an otherwise wonderful 95 explorer. I fanally
justified changing tires to a much softer riding Tiger Paw radial. The wifey
noticed a difference before backing completely out of the driveway.

A decent tire seems to cove a multitude of suspension sins
 
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