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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / April 2004

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1996 V-8 AWD Engine vibration

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Ken - 06 Mar 2004 00:46 GMT
OK..I hope one of you has an idea what may be up with my Explorer now. I
took it to a radiator/aircond. shop to pull the rad and check it out, plus
service the AC because it seemed to be losing it's cooling power. My water
pump had some play in it, and was making weird noises, so I got them to Re
and Re that as well.

Here is where it gets stupid. The kid doing the re and re broke off one of
the bolts into the block, so to properly fix it, I was told they had to
remove the timing cover. I picked up my truck today and all is well.
Everything seems to be in order and looks normal. I pay the bill and drive
away but I only get about 3 blocks when I need step on the gas
hard......VERY strong vibration from the engine. It went away when I took my
foot off the gas.. I took it back and had the owner of the shop drive it. He
noticed it right away as well. We went back to the shop and put in under
load in front of his shop (brake and gas at the same time). It seemed fine.
I looked all around for loose plug wires and anything obvious, but nothing.

Now, after driving it for an hour, I have noticed a couple things:

It seems to be engine RPM related as soon as the engine climbs over 3000 RPM
it starts to vibrate badly. The fan clutch seems fine, as do the pulleys on
the crankshaft and all idlers.

Now, they had to remove the harmonic balancer to remove the timing cover. Is
there anyway they could have forgotten to reinstall any part of the
balancer.
I am very used to older chevrolets, but never had the pleasure of working on
a small block Ford.

I thought they may have jacked it up and bent the front driveshaft with the
jack , but it is not speed related ...it is RPM related.

any ideas for me to follow up on guys?   (and girls)
Kindly respond to this group.
Ken
Jim Warman - 06 Mar 2004 03:32 GMT
How about when you rev the motor to 3000 in neutral? Any vibration then?

Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net

> OK..I hope one of you has an idea what may be up with my Explorer now. I
> took it to a radiator/aircond. shop to pull the rad and check it out, plus
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Kindly respond to this group.
> Ken
chief_wiggum - 06 Mar 2004 23:59 GMT
Sounds to me like the Harmonic Balancer slipped...

Try taking off the serp belt, as suggested and see if you still have the
vibration.  If so, you can eliminate the water pump, A/C compressor, etc...

If it DID slip you can get under the truck and try to turn the outside of
the balancer by hand and see if it has slipped.

good luck with it.
> OK..I hope one of you has an idea what may be up with my Explorer now. I
> took it to a radiator/aircond. shop to pull the rad and check it out, plus
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Kindly respond to this group.
> Ken
Ken - 10 Mar 2004 03:33 GMT
thanks for the tips guys.  I've been real busy, and not had the time I would
like to diagnose my problem further. I'll try out your ideas and get back to
the group.

Ken
Ken - 01 Apr 2004 04:15 GMT
hey thanks again for the tips on the vibration I had.
Turned out to be the fan clutch.

I have another question for the group on the same vehicle. (1996 Explorer,
5.0 Litre, AWD)

I have a rattle (sort of like a bad belt) that seems to be coming from
camshaft position sensor (partman at dealer's name).
This sensor is where the distributor was on older, non electronic ignition,
models. As a matter of fact, it drops down into the engine just like a
distributor and has a stator ( i think) at the top.

I think the noise I'm hearing (when engine is cold) is coming from the
"shaft" part of this sensor.
Apparently, you can buy the top and bottom of this unit. The part's guy told
me that the bottom (shaft part) does have gears in it. I would think that
this is the peice I need.

My question is: can I purchase the part and just interchange them
simply...or can I seriously screwup the timing of my truck and not be able
to restart it after the swap. I'm used to the older generation stuff, and
from experience, it is tricky to get the gears to remesh in the same
position again

any tips?

Ken
 
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