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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / April 2004

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I've got the bug

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Speedy G - 20 Mar 2004 16:47 GMT
I've really got the new car bug and am seriously considering trading my
'97 Ranger 4x4 for an '04 Eddie Bauer Explorer 4x4.  What's the general
consensus of this group on the new E.B.Explorers?
Wraith - 20 Mar 2004 23:02 GMT
Well I have no complaints against the 04' EB explorer but just make sure
that you dont get the 4.6 L V8.  90% of all the 04' explorer owners who
have the V8 report that their engines keep going into Fail-Safe mode (mode
when engine detects malfunction/significant probem and then cuts power to
bare minimum). Ford doesnt have a fix and repetitive initiation of the
Fail-Safe mode isnt good for the engine.  I have the V-6 and I dont
anything good to say for this engine either because I keep getting a very
soft diesel noise from the black engine cover which the dealer says is
injectors. However, seeing that many other people with the V-6 have the
same problem (i mean only 04' explorer owners), I dont know if its
something more serious.  But if you really want an explorer, your best bet
is to buy an EB with the 4.0 L V6 because it has a better reliability
record and offers adequate acceleration and power.
Dave - 21 Mar 2004 04:30 GMT
Is this issue strictly with the '04's or does it go back farther? (further?)
I'm looking for an '02 EB right now based on everybody's recommendations in
here.
Problem is, I like the looks of the 2000's better than the current models!

dave

> Well I have no complaints against the 04' EB explorer but just make sure
> that you dont get the 4.6 L V8.  90% of all the 04' explorer owners who
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> is to buy an EB with the 4.0 L V6 because it has a better reliability
> record and offers adequate acceleration and power.
Wraith - 21 Mar 2004 14:37 GMT
No as far as I know, it's only an issue with the 04' explorers.  But
knowing that, I still wouldn't get the 02' because they had a lot of bugs
because they were a new model.  If anything go with a nice 2003 explorer
and skip the 2000 explorers because they had timing chain problems.
Dave - 21 Mar 2004 16:41 GMT
Oh man, this is getting complicated! How widespread were the '02's problems?
Specifics anyone?
I can't afford a 2003 EB, but I also can't afford a handful of problems,
either. Is there any easy way of
telling if a used 2000 that I might be looking at would have had the chain
issue already fixed?

dave

> No as far as I know, it's only an issue with the 04' explorers.  But
> knowing that, I still wouldn't get the 02' because they had a lot of bugs
> because they were a new model.  If anything go with a nice 2003 explorer
> and skip the 2000 explorers because they had timing chain problems.
JonnyCab? - 30 Mar 2004 16:42 GMT
> No as far as I know, it's only an issue with the 04' explorers.  But
> knowing that, I still wouldn't get the 02' because they had a lot of bugs
> because they were a new model.  If anything go with a nice 2003 explorer
> and skip the 2000 explorers because they had timing chain problems.

'02 EB, V6, over 25,000 miles, bought new.  It was also a very early build,
in 2001.

No trouble, or "bugs".  It had a DPFE valve go bad in December, but that
caused only minor engine stumbling, and only at part throttle.

This is the third "first-year" Ford I've bought, and I've never had "bugs".

I'd buy one again, easily.
fred.smith@fedex.com - 26 Apr 2004 03:59 GMT
The statement saying this affects 90% of all 2004 Explorer V-8 owners is
complete garbage!!!!

Get your facts straight before you post.

Fred Smith

> Well I have no complaints against the 04' EB explorer but just make sure
> that you dont get the 4.6 L V8.  90% of all the 04' explorer owners who
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> is to buy an EB with the 4.0 L V6 because it has a better reliability
> record and offers adequate acceleration and power.
 
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