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96 explorer transmission

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jrchilds - 08 Feb 2005 05:39 GMT
Just bought a 96 explorer 4.0 ohv, 4 wheel drive. Have been reading a lot
about how weak the transmissions are.
Jim what would you recommend to extend the life of the trans? Seems to be in
good shape so far, a little slow shifting into drive from reverse when
weather is very cold.
Was thinking fluid change to synthetic, filter change, maybe additional
cooler and external filter too.
I don't hot rod or tow a trailer.
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Jim Warman - 09 Feb 2005 03:20 GMT
A fluid exchange to synthetic probably couldn't hurt.... even where I live,
I still use whatever the factory fill is. Service the trans according to the
maintenance schedule. Avoid using overdrive in urban areas and when towing.
When stopped on a hill, use the brakes - do not use the throttle as a "hill
holder".

> Just bought a 96 explorer 4.0 ohv, 4 wheel drive. Have been reading a lot
> about how weak the transmissions are.
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> cooler and external filter too.
> I don't hot rod or tow a trailer.
jrchilds - 09 Feb 2005 05:53 GMT
Avoid overdrive in urban areas, and follow the factory maintenance schedule.
Sounds too easy (BG) Oh yea, don't beat it. Will use the synthetic though.
Thanks Jim
Jack

> A fluid exchange to synthetic probably couldn't hurt.... even where I
> live, I still use whatever the factory fill is. Service the trans
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> he
>> will be warm for the rest of his life.

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Big Bill - 09 Feb 2005 17:43 GMT
>A fluid exchange to synthetic probably couldn't hurt.... even where I live,
>I still use whatever the factory fill is. Service the trans according to the
>maintenance schedule. Avoid using overdrive in urban areas and when towing.
>When stopped on a hill, use the brakes - do not use the throttle as a "hill
>holder".

We have a hill which we must stop on (red light) a few times a week.
The hill is such that I can take my foot off the gas, and the tranny
will hold the truck there with no brakes.
I had a friend flip out when he saw this. He said the tranny was
working too hard to hold the truck (I call the Expy a truck).
He said I should use the brakes instead.
I asked him what he thought the tranny would be doing if I used the
brakes. He slowly got this "Never mind" look. :-)

I understand you're talking about hills where you would need to apply
throttle to hold on the hill.That's not a good ldea.

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Jim Warman - 09 Feb 2005 19:27 GMT
I would want to see comparative readings of torque converter temperature
before I got too giddy one way or the other. Using the service brakes
correctly takes very little effort and the brakes will already be applied
should some unforseen event occur.

> >A fluid exchange to synthetic probably couldn't hurt.... even where I live,
> >I still use whatever the factory fill is. Service the trans according to the
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> I understand you're talking about hills where you would need to apply
> throttle to hold on the hill.That's not a good ldea.
Big Bill - 09 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
>I would want to see comparative readings of torque converter temperature
>before I got too giddy one way or the other. Using the service brakes
>correctly takes very little effort and the brakes will already be applied
>should some unforseen event occur.

Well, for the hill where the tranny will hold the vehicle without the
brakes, there's no difference to the tranny whether you apply the
brakes or not.
Consider, the tranny will be working against either the brakes or the
hill, whichever, take your pick. If the brakes supply the same force
as the hill, the tranny sees no difference. It will see the same
resistance as if you were on level ground with the brakes applied.
TC temps will remain the same, since it's doing the exact same work.

>> >A fluid exchange to synthetic probably couldn't hurt.... even where I
>live,
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>> I understand you're talking about hills where you would need to apply
>> throttle to hold on the hill.That's not a good ldea.

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Jim Warman - 10 Feb 2005 03:07 GMT
I understand what you are saying...... and can even almost agree with it. I
would, however, like to see the comparative temperature readings rather than
assuming anything.

Engine rpm also needs to be taken into consideration since any torque
multiplication will increase the heat build up.
Big Bill - 10 Feb 2005 16:19 GMT
>I understand what you are saying...... and can even almost agree with it. I
>would, however, like to see the comparative temperature readings rather than
>assuming anything.
>
>Engine rpm also needs to be taken into consideration since any torque
>multiplication will increase the heat build up.

The drivetrain doesn't change RPMs because the wheels are blocked by a
curb, as opposed to the wheels being blocked by the brakes. It neither
knows or cares *why* the load is present, it just knows the load is
there.
If you're stopped at an idle (as at a red light), the drivetrain
doesn't care if the load is presented by the brakes or a hill, or a
curb, or a dog, or your kid's tricycle. It simply has no mechanism to
know or care, or adjust the RPMs.

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Jim Warman - 12 Feb 2005 04:29 GMT
I wont be drawn into a pissing contest... you can have it whichever way you
like it. I will neither suggest nor recommend doing it "this way". It has
been many years since transmissions were "overbuilt" and late model
automatics can re-adjust our spending habits if they require repair. There
is little to be gained in performing a simple task in a "unique" manner...
especially given the human subconcious reaction of pedalling the car to
maintain that grasp on remaining stationary.

You may treat your car however you feel, but I feel I must caution against
recommending these same practices to those with less experience or
knowledge. Any condition that will have a chance of increasing the operating
temp of the transmission should be avoided if possible. When the converter
is slipping, it is generating heat. It is just as easy to burn a
transmission up at 0 mph as it is at 70 mph.

> >I understand what you are saying...... and can even almost agree with it. I
> >would, however, like to see the comparative temperature readings rather than
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> curb, or a dog, or your kid's tricycle. It simply has no mechanism to
> know or care, or adjust the RPMs.
 
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