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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / August 2005

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Noise from front end and steering.

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zotiREMOVERTHISPART@hotmail.com - 26 Jul 2005 22:28 GMT
I have 2 problems here. Don't know if they are connected.

1. I have a noise when I turn the steering to the right. It's like something
needs to be lubricated and I can feel it through the steering wheel.
This happens only at very low speeds like 5mph. During the course of turning
the wheel +2 turns (like when I exit the garage into the alley) I will hear
it twice at about the same spot on the turn of the wheel.

2. Front end noise from driver side. It feels and sound like something is
loose but I can't find it. Also only at slower speeds (10-30mph). I can feel
this one through the steering wheel too. It's very noticeable when I do a
slow left turn.

Any ideas ?
1998 XLT 4.0 SOHC AT
gordo - 27 Jul 2005 05:13 GMT
>I have 2 problems here. Don't know if they are connected.
>
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> Any ideas ?
> 1998 XLT 4.0 SOHC AT

No idea about #1... but concerning problem #2.....
I had a very similar noise in my 96' Explorer which I could not locate
either. Light rattling through steerinf wheel, especially during slow turns
over bumps.
Discussed the problem with a Ford tech friend of of mine. He did some
research on factory TSB's regarding this noise.
Told me to replace the connecting link\bar which goes between the end of the
steering column and the steering gearbox.
It's a 2 piece tubular telescoping unit. Mine was loose internally and was
rattling. The new piece is a beefed up heavier looking part which eliminated
the knocking\rattling sound in my Explorer steering.
Part cost me  approx. $100, I installed it myself.
zotiREMOVERTHISPART@hotmail.com - 27 Jul 2005 06:06 GMT
Don't you need to re-align the front after you change the tie rods ?

BTW, someone else mentioned this as a possible cause as well.

zoti

> >I have 2 problems here. Don't know if they are connected.
> >
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> the knocking\rattling sound in my Explorer steering.
> Part cost me  approx. $100, I installed it myself.
zotiREMOVERTHISPART@hotmail.com - 27 Jul 2005 06:16 GMT
Can you tell me which part you replaced in the following diagram ?
http://www.parts.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028080.gif
This is for a 98 Explorer.

Did you replace the other side as well ?

zoti

> >I have 2 problems here. Don't know if they are connected.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> the knocking\rattling sound in my Explorer steering.
> Part cost me  approx. $100, I installed it myself.
Steve S. - 27 Jul 2005 16:55 GMT
> Can you tell me which part you replaced in the following diagram ?
> http://www.parts.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028080.gif
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>>the knocking\rattling sound in my Explorer steering.
>>Part cost me  approx. $100, I installed it myself.

I believe he is referring to this part (#2) :

http://www.trademotion.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028090.gif

I replaced the same thing on mine. It wasn't rattling but there was some
slop in the joint. No realignment is necessary since this is only a
connecting link between the steering column and the rack and pinion.

Steve
gordo - 29 Jul 2005 02:29 GMT
Yes you are correct...
That's the one I replaced.

> I believe he is referring to this part (#2) :
>
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>
> Steve
gordo - 29 Jul 2005 02:37 GMT
> I believe he is referring to this part (#2) :
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> slop in the joint. No realignment is necessary since this is only a
> connecting link between the steering column and the rack and pinion.

My steering had no noticeable slop, but only made rattling sounds in slow
cornering situations.
The sound seemed to originate from under the dash or the floorboard.
I crawled all over (and under) the car looking for loose objects or steering
components.
When I replace that part, the rattling sound went away.
Steve S. - 27 Jul 2005 16:57 GMT
> Can you tell me which part you replaced in the following diagram ?
> http://www.parts.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028080.gif
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>>the knocking\rattling sound in my Explorer steering.
>>Part cost me  approx. $100, I installed it myself.

I believe he is referring to this part (#2) :

http://www.trademotion.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028090.gif

I replaced the same thing on mine. It wasn't rattling but there was some
slop in the joint. No realignment is necessary since this is only a
connecting link between the steering column and the rack and pinion.

Steve
zotiREMOVERTHISPART@hotmail.com - 28 Jul 2005 04:33 GMT
How do you get to it ? How much work is it ?

I don't think this is the problem though as the noise comes from the left
side only and not when I  turn the wheel. There is also no play in the
steering.

zoti
> > Can you tell me which part you replaced in the following diagram ?
> > http://www.parts.com/schematics/images/mechanical/T028080.gif
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>
> Steve
Steve S. - 28 Jul 2005 15:38 GMT
> How do you get to it ? How much work is it ?
>
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>
> zoti

You get to it from under the hood. It takes about 15 minutes to change
and only requires a few hand tools.

As far as the noise does it only happen when the wheel is cranked hard
left ?
zotiREMOVERTHISPART@hotmail.com - 28 Jul 2005 23:01 GMT
The noise happens at slow speed and sounds and feels like a low rattle from
the left. I can hear it and even feel it a bit thought the steering wheel.
The steering doesn't have any play in it at all and the noise doesn't happen
while turning the wheel.

That's why I think it's a suspension component or the tie rod that is
causing the noise and not the part mentioned.

zoti
> > How do you get to it ? How much work is it ?
> >
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> As far as the noise does it only happen when the wheel is cranked hard
> left ?
anonomizer - 29 Jul 2005 16:51 GMT
is it a clicking sort of ratcheting sound on left {sharp left turns} ?
I went through this a few times on my '99 sport {actually, I just had it
fixed yesterday for the 3rd time}, it was the drivers side front hub that
went bad.
3 times in 6 years ???

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William

> The noise happens at slow speed and sounds and feels like a low rattle
> from
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>> As far as the noise does it only happen when the wheel is cranked hard
>> left ?
ART - 31 Aug 2005 18:01 GMT
Just back few hours ago from Ford dealer. I have the same problem ( for 2
months ) as you describe , on a 2002 XLT , 28000 Miles.
When I drive in the morning ( 25 miles ), no noise , everything is correct.
Strangely , I can hear a knocking noise when driving back to home in the
afternoon.It seems like a part of the steering wheel is missing and moving
at low speed and medium speed.  It's really annoying , and Ford Dealer has
no solution.

Everything has been checked  ( Suspension , transmission , tires , steering
wheel ) and looks normal.

Is there a risk to drive the car ? I'm afraid nobody can answer.

Regards

ART

> The noise happens at slow speed and sounds and feels like a low rattle
> from
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> As far as the noise does it only happen when the wheel is cranked hard
>> left ?

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