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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / September 2005

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Squeaky Suspension

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jaydee56 - 16 Sep 2005 20:49 GMT
My Ford Explorer squeaks when I drive it, and I tried to find the ball
joints to grease up, but found out that there isn't any. So my question is
how do I grease it up so that the suspension doesn't squeak?

Thank you,
John
Mikepier - 17 Sep 2005 12:23 GMT
Are you sure it's the ball joints? Usually it's the sway bar bushings
that squeak a lot. Those are easy to remove and lubricate. What year is
your truck?
Steven Hilgendorf - 17 Sep 2005 18:03 GMT
> Are you sure it's the ball joints? Usually it's the sway bar bushings
> that squeak a lot. Those are easy to remove and lubricate. What year is
> your truck?

Hello, I have a smiler problem with my '98 EB AWD.  For the past year,
or so, my suspension has been intermittently squeaky.  I've noticed that
it only squeaks when it is hot and dry outside.  During damp and rainy
weather I don't notice the squeaking.  I've had it in to the dealer
twice for this problem, and guess what?  No problem found both times :o)

My factory warranty just expired and I'm probably out of luck, so I
would like to know if there is anything I can do to eliminate this
intermittent squeaking?  Any suggestions?

Steven
stevie - 17 Sep 2005 19:25 GMT
if you had the car in under warranty, and the problem couldn't be found by
dealer, would they cover the problem under warranty if it re-occurs, even
though technically warranty expires?
Mikepier wrote:

> Are you sure it's the ball joints? Usually it's the sway bar bushings
> that squeak a lot. Those are easy to remove and lubricate. What year is
> your truck?

Hello, I have a smiler problem with my '98 EB AWD.  For the past year,
or so, my suspension has been intermittently squeaky.  I've noticed that
it only squeaks when it is hot and dry outside.  During damp and rainy
weather I don't notice the squeaking.  I've had it in to the dealer
twice for this problem, and guess what?  No problem found both times :o)

My factory warranty just expired and I'm probably out of luck, so I
would like to know if there is anything I can do to eliminate this
intermittent squeaking?  Any suggestions?

Steven
Steven Hilgendorf - 17 Sep 2005 23:27 GMT
Good question, it's a documented problem?  The problem is intermittent,
and I was hoping it would become worse before the warranty expired,
today.  Unfortunately, it has not gotten any worse, or better for that
matter, since I had it in the shop last Friday.  I just want to get the
problem fixed, either way.

Steven

> if you had the car in under warranty, and the problem couldn't be found by
> dealer, would they cover the problem under warranty if it re-occurs, even
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> Steven
chuckster - 18 Sep 2005 05:00 GMT
Get under the truck and hit ALL the leaf springs, sway bar, and chassis
components at the contact points with some spray lube (use extension
tube) and this may help.
Steven Hilgendorf - 18 Sep 2005 16:47 GMT
> Get under the truck and hit ALL the leaf springs, sway bar, and chassis
> components at the contact points with some spray lube (use extension
> tube) and this may help.

Thanks chuckster, that is what I was thinking too.  What kind/brand of
spray lube?  I was not sure if this would help, or hurt in the long run?
  I've used/have PB Blaster for stubborn part removal, would this work
or be to aggressive?

I guess I could try 'hitting' a few places at a time to try and pinpoint
the location of the problem.  If found, I could then make
repair/replacement decisions from there.

Thanks again,

Steven
Kenneth J. Harris - 18 Sep 2005 21:55 GMT
When the conditions are dry and you have the squeaks, Spray WD40 on the
edges of the leaf springs(both sides) first.  See if that cures the
problem.  If not, spray the sway bar bushings next and see if that gets
rid of the noise.  This may not be the best choice for a permanent cure,
but it will at least identify or eliminate two suspects.

Ken

>> Get under the truck and hit ALL the leaf springs, sway bar, and chassis
>> components at the contact points with some spray lube (use extension
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>
> Steven
Happy Traveler - 19 Sep 2005 03:33 GMT
For what it's worth, I traced the dry weather squeaks on my '98 AWD to the
front bushing of an anti-windup bar. Don't know if spraying would have been
effective, because I replaced the whole thing.
By the way, at least in the 98 model year the anti-windup bar came only with
the V8 engine.

> When the conditions are dry and you have the squeaks, Spray WD40 on the
> edges of the leaf springs(both sides) first.  See if that cures the
> problem.  If not, spray the sway bar bushings next and see if that gets
> rid of the noise.  This may not be the best choice for a permanent cure,
> but it will at least identify or eliminate two suspects.
Steven Hilgendorf - 19 Sep 2005 14:20 GMT
Thanks Ken and Happy Traveler for the suggestions.  The squeaking is
absolutely coming from the front end.  Do you remember how much the
anti-windup bar cost, if in USD$?  I will look at my Ford Service CD for
R/R procedures of the A-W Bar.

Thanks again,

Steven

> For what it's worth, I traced the dry weather squeaks on my '98 AWD to the
> front bushing of an anti-windup bar. Don't know if spraying would have been
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>>rid of the noise.  This may not be the best choice for a permanent cure,
>>but it will at least identify or eliminate two suspects.
Steven Hilgendorf - 19 Sep 2005 15:03 GMT
I looked at my Ford TSP CD and there is no "anti-windup bar" listed?  I
have a 1998 Ford Explorer EB AWD V8.  In addition, I looked at the
Genuine Ford Parts site (http:\\www.parts.com) and the illustration of
the front suspension of my vehicle did not list/show said part either?

However, both the TSP CD and GFP site don't list/show a third rear shock
absorber for my vehicle either, but I do indeed have three shock
absorbers on the rear of my Explorer :o)

Steven

> Thanks Ken and Happy Traveler for the suggestions.  The squeaking is
> absolutely coming from the front end.  Do you remember how much the
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>>> rid of the noise.  This may not be the best choice for a permanent cure,
>>> but it will at least identify or eliminate two suspects.
Happy Traveler - 19 Sep 2005 22:51 GMT
The Anti Windup Bar is a part of the REAR suspension. It prevents the leaf
springs from 'winding up', apparently only a problem for the higher torque
available from the V8. Pretty sure about the name of this part, but will
double check it later tonight, when I get to my manual.

> I looked at my Ford TSP CD and there is no "anti-windup bar" listed?  I
> have a 1998 Ford Explorer EB AWD V8.  In addition, I looked at the
> Genuine Ford Parts site (http:\\www.parts.com) and the illustration of
> the front suspension of my vehicle did not list/show said part either?
Steven Hilgendorf - 20 Sep 2005 17:17 GMT
Yes, ok, Happy Traveler, the 'anti-windup bar' is part of the "REAR"
suspension :o)  I was looking at the front suspension, where I'm almost
positive the squeaking is coming from.

Thanks again,

Steven
> The Anti Windup Bar is a part of the REAR suspension. It prevents the leaf
> springs from 'winding up', apparently only a problem for the higher torque
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>>Genuine Ford Parts site (http:\\www.parts.com) and the illustration of
>>the front suspension of my vehicle did not list/show said part either?
Mikepier - 19 Sep 2005 14:59 GMT
>From experience, simply spraying WD40 on the bushings is not enough.
You have to remove the bushings and thoroughly lubricate the insides so
it will stop squeaking.
chuckster - 20 Sep 2005 01:46 GMT
Steve Blaster may be too agressive, try a silicone product or WD 40.
Use the extension wand and squirt it in the nooks and crannies around
the possible squeek areas. Get back to us and let us know how it worked
out. Wear safety glasses!!!!!!
Steven Hilgendorf - 20 Sep 2005 17:29 GMT
> Steve Blaster may be too agressive, try a silicone product or WD 40.
> Use the extension wand and squirt it in the nooks and crannies around
> the possible squeek areas. Get back to us and let us know how it worked
> out. Wear safety glasses!!!!!!

Chuckster, I'll see if I can find a silicone based, possibly dry,
product that will be safe for the bushings...

Thanks again,

Steven
Searcher1 - 20 Sep 2005 02:41 GMT
Is the squeak coming from the front? I had this problem BAD, I ended taking
it to the dealer and found out that it had something to do with the control
arm bushings, they replaced all of them at no charge (under warranty). The
squeak went away and never returned. Try spraying the upper control arm
bushings when you have the squeak and see if it goes away, I would use WD40
thoug.
Searcher1
Steven Hilgendorf - 20 Sep 2005 17:26 GMT
> Is the squeak coming from the front? I had this problem BAD, I ended taking
> it to the dealer and found out that it had something to do with the control
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> thoug.
> Searcher1

I'd bet that's where my squeaking is coming from too.  My Explorer has
been to the dealer twice for this noise, unfortunately, the squeaking is
intermittent and only noisy when it's warm and dry outside.  It does not
make any noise if it's damp, humid, or wet outside, so the times it's
been in the shop they could not find a problem.

Thanks,

Steven
budman@suckeggs.ca - 21 Sep 2005 04:10 GMT
Is there any chance this vehicle has air suspension??  My '97 Limited drives me
crazy on occasion.  The front air shocks creak and squeak, depending on the
weather, strange as it may seem.  

>>Searcher1 wrote:
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>>
>>Steven
Steven Hilgendorf - 24 Sep 2005 22:01 GMT
No, no air suspension here.

Steven

> Is there any chance this vehicle has air suspension??  My '97 Limited drives me
> crazy on occasion.  The front air shocks creak and squeak, depending on the
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>>>
>>>Steven
 
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