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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / November 2005

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Fed Up With Goodyear Wranglers

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rvfulltime (was xenman) - 06 Nov 2005 00:34 GMT
A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
miles they were fine.  But then I started hearing a noise that sounded like
the front wheel bearings were going out.  The dealer said "nope, it's the
tires".  We rotated the front to back, and the noise went away for a few
months and came back.  Then my brother-in-law put a nail through a rear
tire.  I bought a new matching tire, took the spare off, and put both unused
tires on the front and the used tire on as a spare.  The noise went away
for a few months and came back.  Frankly I wish I had kept the Firestones,
particularly since most of my driving is in cooler climates (west coast).

I'm fed up with these Goodyear Wranglers and I'm about to buy some new
ones at Discount Tires.  Why Discount Tires?  I travel a lot through out the
west and they seem to be located all over the west and I've had good
experiences with them on their road hazard warranties.  That makes me
a happy and loyal customer.

So...   What tires do you recommend for a 2000 Explorer XLT?  Any ones
to avoid?

Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
Jim Warman - 06 Nov 2005 00:40 GMT
The larger percent of the NG seems to favour the Michelins.... and those of
us are split about 50/50 on LTX M/S and Cross Terrains.

I've had LTX M/S on a few of my units... I don't think you're going to find
a better tire.

Hankook also makes a decent tire.... sold many of these in the oil patch...
C. E. White - 07 Nov 2005 15:42 GMT
> The larger percent of the NG seems to favour the Michelins.... and those of
> us are split about 50/50 on LTX M/S and Cross Terrains.
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>
> Hankook also makes a decent tire.... sold many of these in the oil patch...

About 30,000 miles ago I bought a set of Michelin Cross Terrains for my
Expedition. At first they were fine, but now they are really noisy. I've had
LTXs in the past (and still have a set on an old F150) and been happier with
them. I am unimpressed with the Cross Terrains (at least the ones on my
Expedition), and won't buy another set. On the other hand, after 30,000
miles they still look like new. The donwnside is, they may last foreer.....

Ed
Ulysses - 06 Nov 2005 01:21 GMT
> A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
> the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
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>
> Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.

I bought my last 6 or 7 sets of tires from America's Tires which is the same
company as Discount Tires.  For one thing they include everything except the
road hazard warranty in their price.  They always fix flats for me and
rotate my tires for free and with no hassles.  They even fixed a flat for
free on my wife's Nissan Frontier that had tires they don't even sell.
Guess what?  My wife went back and bought a set of Michelins from them
(after the second flat in two weeks on the stock tires that came on the
Nissan).  I think if I shopped around I might be able to get tires for a few
bucks less but it probably would not be worth the trouble.

The only time they ever "did me wrong" was during the Firestone Recall
Fiasco the only tires they had in stock were some knockoffs called Desert
Dogs which turned out to be somewhat crappy.  I think they were made by
Pirelli.

We (me and my wife) tried various tires including the BFG All Terrain/TA
tires and like the Michelin LTX M/S the best.  We drive on dirt roads a lot
and go on the mountain trails when it's snowing and icy.  They also hold the
road really well (on pavement).  They also last a long time.  I have not
tried the Cross Terrains.
Cedartown Electronics - 07 Nov 2005 22:04 GMT
I switched to the LTX during the recall on my 99 XLS, and love them.  The
'02 XLT came with cross terrain and the are nice and quite also.  I can't
tell much difference between the two for quietness and comfortable ride.  My
'01 Supercrew has Generals, and them suckers are about to be replaced with
LTX's

/Richard

> A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
> the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
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>
> Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
Ulysses - 07 Nov 2005 23:35 GMT
> I switched to the LTX during the recall on my 99 XLS, and love them.  The
> '02 XLT came with cross terrain and the are nice and quite also.  I can't
> tell much difference between the two for quietness and comfortable ride.  My
> '01 Supercrew has Generals, and them suckers are about to be replaced with
> LTX's

Generals are what my Frontier had too.  I told my wife she could either
continue to have roadside adventures or get some Michelins.  We now have the
LTXs on 4 vehicles.

> /Richard
>
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> >
> > Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
Fred 2 - 08 Nov 2005 01:21 GMT
Went from orginal Firestones ATX, to Michelin LTX M/S that finally
wore out. I just put on a set of Goodyear Fortera Silent Armor tires
70,000 tread.

>A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
>the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
Mikepier - 08 Nov 2005 12:03 GMT
I've had the Cross Terrains on my 99 XLT for about 25,000 miles and
they have been great so far.
Bob - 09 Nov 2005 00:40 GMT
> A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
> the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.

 Another vote for Michelin LTX
Jonah - 09 Nov 2005 03:14 GMT
I just bought a set of Kumho Venture ATs for about half the price of the Michelins, and so far I'm really happy with
them.  In the past I've had the LTXs also, and they're excellent.  Go to Tirerack.com and check out the reviews and
ratings for hundreds of different tires.  Their prices are very good, and delivery speed is amazing.

>> A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
>> the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
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>>
>  Another vote for Michelin LTX
stevie - 10 Nov 2005 13:38 GMT
my LTXs have about 50K miles and still good tread left.  However, they
started making road noise about 10000 miles ago,  Dealer said noise due to
tire cupping.

i'm not going to replace them right away, but Discount Tire quoted about
$125 per tire to replace.

Ford is now recommending replacing tires that are 4-5 years old, no matter
what the mileage.

A few years ago, in replacing the original Firestone Wilderness AT tires
the local Ford dealer installed Goodyear Wranglers.  For the first 10,000
miles they were fine.  But then I started hearing a noise that sounded like
the front wheel bearings were going out.  The dealer said "nope, it's the
tires".  We rotated the front to back, and the noise went away for a few
months and came back.  Then my brother-in-law put a nail through a rear
tire.  I bought a new matching tire, took the spare off, and put both unused
tires on the front and the used tire on as a spare.  The noise went away
for a few months and came back.  Frankly I wish I had kept the Firestones,
particularly since most of my driving is in cooler climates (west coast).

I'm fed up with these Goodyear Wranglers and I'm about to buy some new
ones at Discount Tires.  Why Discount Tires?  I travel a lot through out the
west and they seem to be located all over the west and I've had good
experiences with them on their road hazard warranties.  That makes me
a happy and loyal customer.

So...   What tires do you recommend for a 2000 Explorer XLT?  Any ones
to avoid?

Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
Big Shoe - 10 Nov 2005 13:46 GMT
My experience has been that, once cupping or feathered edges happen,
the tires stay noisy.  My original Goodrich tires got noisy due to
slight feathering caused by an alignment problem.  I tried to find a
tire place that still did tire truing to get the tires evened up
again, but could not find anyone still doing that.  They have worn
down so that they are somewhat quieter, but I can still hear them.

My worst experiences with tire cupping were before I started to
regularly have the tires rotated.  Just a thought.

>my LTXs have about 50K miles and still good tread left.  However, they
>started making road noise about 10000 miles ago,  Dealer said noise due to
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>
>Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.
gordo - 13 Nov 2005 19:11 GMT
> my LTXs have about 50K miles and still good tread left.  However, they
> started making road noise about 10000 miles ago,  Dealer said noise due to
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>
> Thanks in advance.  No e-mail please.

General concensus among many Explorer owners is to go with either the
Michelin "LTX M/S" or "Cross Terrains".
I have used "M/S's" on a previous truck and currenly have "Cross Terrains"
on my 96' and I am very satisfied using either of them.
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