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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / December 2005

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Explorer recall for fires with cruise switch?

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robmurr@aol.com - 09 Dec 2005 15:43 GMT
got a 2002 explorer that apparently uses the same switch that causes
fires but is not listed in the recall...anyone got theirs replaced yet?
Looked at mine no leaks visible, cruise works properly. Found an
article that said mid 2002 they changed to the new switch can anyone
confirm this? Is the manufacture date on the door or can I tell by
looking at the switch?  
Thanks.
robmurr@aol.com - 09 Dec 2005 15:51 GMT
Oh I disconnected it to hopefully make it safe and it turned off the
cruise control ok but also turned on the ABS light! So I reconnected
it.
Ed White - 09 Dec 2005 19:02 GMT
Are you sure your switch is conencted to an always live power source?
Some Fords use the same sort of switch, but connect it to a circuit
that is powered only when the ignition switch is in the run position.

For Expeditions and F150s that are recalled they add a new pigtail that
includes a lower amperage fuse.

Personally, if you vehicle is outside the range for the original recall
(not the expanded "cover your a.s recall"), I would not worry too much.
I suggest you register your vehicle at www.myford.fordvehicles.com .
Once you are registered you can check to see if your vehicle was
recalled.

Before word got out about the bad switches, the bulk of the reported
failures had switches from the same "bad" batch. After the problem was
identiified, reports started cropping up for all sorts of Fords, even
ones that don't have the same sort of switch and circuit.

Still, I wish somebody would explain why Ford connected the cruise
control deactivation switch to an always live power source. Ford is not
the first company to do something like this (some manufacturers used
similar switchs to operate brake lights), but it still seems like a bad
idea. It is so obviously bad (and unecessary), I keep thinking there
must be a compelling reason for doing so. I particualrly think this
since the fix does not move the circuit to a switched power source
(which could easily have been done).

Ed
Mikepier - 09 Dec 2005 19:15 GMT
> Oh I disconnected it to hopefully make it safe and it turned off the
> cruise control ok but also turned on the ABS light! So I reconnected
> it.
Are you sure you disconnected the cruise switch and not the ABS module?
On my 99 I did not have the ABS light come on when I disconnected my
switch, but maybe they did something different with the wiring in 2002.
robmurr@aol.com - 10 Dec 2005 04:26 GMT
I may have disconnected the wrong switch, I now have a picture of the
correct switch
and will try again this weekend. Thanks.
Ed White - 10 Dec 2005 22:33 GMT
I just took a look at the 2002 Explorer wiring diagrams. Although you
have the same sort of cruise control deactivation switch as an
F150/Expedition, it is not wired the same. It is connected to a circuit
that is only hot when the switch is in the hot or run position (the
"bad" F150 switch is always powered). During the 2002 model year Ford
changed the circuit that feeds the switch For early build 2002 models
it was powered by a circuit that powers a number of other componets and
was protected by a 15 amp fuse. For late build 2002s the cruise control
deactivation switch is fed by a seperate circuit that is protected by a
5 amp fuse.

So for any 2002, it is unlikely that you would have a fire begin with
the vehicle parked and the key turned off. It is conceivable, but
unlikely that for an early 2002 a fire could start while the truck was
running. For a late build 2002 there should be no problem since the
switch is protected by a 5 amp fuse and is only powered when the key is
in start or run.

For a late build 2002, disconnecting the cruise control activation
switch will disable the ABS, since the ABS control module receives a
voltage feed from the output of the cruise control deactivation switch.
This does not appear to be the case for the early build 2002 Explorers.
Therefore I think you must have a late build model, and there is no
need for you to be concerned at all.

I am not sure of the production dates for early build 2002 Explorers,
but I think relatively few were built (early 2001 build dates only).

Ed
 
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