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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / June 2006

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zoti - 31 May 2006 23:10 GMT
Can someone with a carfax account run a carfax on vin #5DF55$WS@@#...

Sorry, just kidding. Here's the real question:

I bought my car in CA from the original owner. Registered it there under my
name. Then moved to TX and registered it here in TX.

CARFAX shows 3 owners for the car. The original owner, myself when I
registered it in CA and then myself again when I registered it in TX.
Shouldn't it show only 2 owners?

Thanks,
zoti
Jim Smith - 01 Jun 2006 00:38 GMT
Carfax tells you how many times a title has been issued.  You have 3 titles
issued to your car.

> Can someone with a carfax account run a carfax on vin #5DF55$WS@@#...
>
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> Thanks,
> zoti
zoti - 01 Jun 2006 04:03 GMT
I know that I have 3 titles but on the carfax report it states 3 owners
which is not true.

> Carfax tells you how many times a title has been issued.  You have 3 titles
> issued to your car.
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> > Thanks,
> > zoti
Shopdog - 01 Jun 2006 14:13 GMT
I'm wondering if 1st owner would have been the dealer to whom the car was
first issued.

Manufacture to dealer may constitue "ownership"

Theretically, the car was transferred from factory to dealer.

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zoti - 02 Jun 2006 00:10 GMT
No. First owner was private. When I bought it I ran a carfax on it and it
had one title issued. The dates for the second and third owner match the
date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
> I'm wondering if 1st owner would have been the dealer to whom the car was
> first issued.
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>
> Searcher
Jim Smith - 02 Jun 2006 02:39 GMT
You answered your own question.  It showed one title when you bought it.
That equals one owner.  When you bought it and titled it in CA that's the
second owner.  When you titled it in your home state, that's the third
owner.  Carfax thinks of title changes as change in ownership.  Three
titles, 3 owners.

> No. First owner was private. When I bought it I ran a carfax on it and it
> had one title issued. The dates for the second and third owner match the
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>>
>> Searcher
Happy Traveler - 02 Jun 2006 13:32 GMT
So you expected the Carfax computer to figure out that it was you
re-registering the car in Texas, just because the name matches? And if the
last name matches, but not the first, perhaps to figure out that you have a
brother in Texas? Come on!

> No. First owner was private. When I bought it I ran a carfax on it and it
> had one title issued. The dates for the second and third owner match the
> date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
zoti - 02 Jun 2006 15:25 GMT
Yes. I actually do expect it to understand that people move from state to
state and register their car in the new state. It should say that there was
a new title issued. Not a new owner (which sounds like someone else bought
the car).

> So you expected the Carfax computer to figure out that it was you
> re-registering the car in Texas, just because the name matches? And if the
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> > had one title issued. The dates for the second and third owner match the
> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
Jim Smith - 02 Jun 2006 19:09 GMT
Start your own company and you can run it the way you'd like.  If not, stop
complaining about how someone else runs their business.  If you don't like
the Car Fax method, then don't use it.

> Yes. I actually do expect it to understand that people move from state to
> state and register their car in the new state. It should say that there
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>> > the
>> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
zoti - 02 Jun 2006 19:20 GMT
Who broke your blend door?

> Start your own company and you can run it the way you'd like.  If not, stop
> complaining about how someone else runs their business.  If you don't like
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> >> > the
> >> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
Jim Smith - 02 Jun 2006 22:31 GMT
Why would you expect Car Fax to know that you titled your vehicle in another
state?  They look at Motor Vehicle records.  They do not look at the "NEW"
owner's name, nor would these individual names be available from the DMV.

> Who broke your blend door?
>
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>> >> > the
>> >> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
zoti - 03 Jun 2006 01:35 GMT
I guess what I would prefer to see on the report is that the vehicle had 3
titles issued to it under 2 different owners. I hope it makes sense.

> Why would you expect Car Fax to know that you titled your vehicle in another
> state?  They look at Motor Vehicle records.  They do not look at the "NEW"
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> >> >> > the
> >> >> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
Zilla - 03 Jun 2006 15:17 GMT
Apparently carfax equates titles to owners. It does not
verify that if title went from John Doe to John Doe that
it's the same person. It just assumes a different person
with the same name.

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> I guess what I would prefer to see on the report is that the vehicle had 3
> titles issued to it under 2 different owners. I hope it makes sense.
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> > >> >> > date I bought the car and the date I titled it in TX.
 
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