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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / August 2006Running on Coleman stove fuel
I've got a few gallons of Coleman stove fuel (naptha?) I need to get rid of. Can I put it in my 1994 Explorer's gas tank? Thanks, Bob. > I've got a few gallons of Coleman stove fuel (naptha?) I need to get rid > of. Can I put it in my 1994 Explorer's gas tank? Thanks, Bob Almost certainly.......But why would you?? Dave >>I've got a few gallons of Coleman stove fuel (naptha?) I need to get rid >>of. Can I put it in my 1994 Explorer's gas tank? Thanks, Bob > > Almost certainly.......But why would you?? > > Dave To get rid of it and get 4 gallons of gas (about $12) for free! Go for it... be sure to tell us if anything breaks... Saving 12 bucks pales if we sacrifice a few injectors in the process..... If you have any old aftershave, add that too..... >>>I've got a few gallons of Coleman stove fuel (naptha?) I need to get rid >>>of. Can I put it in my 1994 Explorer's gas tank? Thanks, Bob [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > To get rid of it and get 4 gallons of gas (about $12) for free! > Go for it... be sure to tell us if anything breaks... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >>To get rid of it and get 4 gallons of gas (about $12) for free! That's why I asked. Jim you're a bit sarcastic but you answered my question. I won't put it in the tank. Thanks. That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my message across, most times... >> Go for it... be sure to tell us if anything breaks... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > That's why I asked. Jim you're a bit sarcastic but you answered my > question. I won't put it in the tank. Thanks. > That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my > message across, most times... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>That's why I asked. Jim you're a bit sarcastic but you answered my >>question. I won't put it in the tank. Thanks. I know. You've made fun of every question I ever asked in this group. (but in that way you've answered my questions). Don't change, it's amusing. And thanks for sharing your knowledge you're a tremendous asset to the group. Bob. LETS see, 4 gallons Coleman fuel 4 at $4.00 a gal. = $16.00 Where is this FREE? Searcher > LETS see, 4 gallons Coleman fuel 4 at $4.00 a gal. = $16.00 > > Where is this FREE? > > Searcher You're right. I paid for that Coleman fuel already so it's not free, but now I have to pay to get rid of it, plus it would have meant 4 less gallons of gas I would pay for at my next fill up. Plus I wouldn't have to drive to the recyclers... > You're right. I paid for that Coleman fuel already so it's not free, but > now I have to pay to get rid of it, plus it would have meant 4 less > gallons of gas I would pay for at my next fill up. Plus I wouldn't have > to drive to the recyclers... Don't pay to get rid of it. There is probably a freecycle group near you. Perhaps craig's list. Advertise it there. Somebody will come get it. sdb  SignatureWanted: Omnibook 800 & accessories, cheap, working or not sdbuse1 on mailhost bigfoot.com > That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my > message across, most times... Heh heh! I'll take advice from a knowledgeable curmudgeon over a polite idot any day. But Coleman fuel is pretty pure stuff. I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I were out of gas, and I *certainly* don't think it would hurt to mix some in with a tank of gas. I once gassed up and drove about a mile before my car started running rough and died. I popped the hood and immediately saw the problem. I had one of those clear fuel filters- it was bright orange, filled with rusty water. That came out of a gas station nozzle. So using a little white gas specially purified for use in cooking as gasoline doesn't sound very risky. Here's the composition: Chemical Name COLEMAN FUEL Specifications: Coleman Fuel is a complex mixture of light hydrocarbons (primarily aliphatic) produced by distillation of petroleum. Carbon number range is C5 to C9. Coleman Fuel is fully hydrotreated to remove aromatics, and contains less than 0.001% benzene. The boiling point range is 100-350° F (Goldsmith, 2002). Coleman Fuel contains up to 25% n-hexane and up to 15% cyclohexane by weight (Calumet, 1998). Synonyms Petroleum ether, petroleum naphtha, light hydrotreated petroleum distillate, white gas, Amsol 10, Kensol 10, VM&P (varnish makers & painters) naphtha, petroleum benzin. I agree with the guy who said "why would you?" The main reason not to is that Coleman Fuel is more expensive. Which is because it's more pure. The aftershave comparison is bogus. Interestingly enough, that chemical composition info came from a page about the use of Coleman Fuel by meth labs... -Paul >>That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my >>message across, most times... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > about the use of Coleman Fuel by meth labs... > -Paul So maybe my question wasn't so idiotic? > So maybe my question wasn't so idiotic? I don't think it was. But I like to live dangerously. Why, just yesterday I ripped one of those "Do not remove under penalty of law" tags off a mattress. So far so good... I think I got away with it. ;-) -Paul > So maybe my question wasn't so idiotic? Your question wasn't idiotic at all. In the old days before unleaded gasoline was available, Coleman fuel was "white gas". That meant simply that it was was unleaded gasoline. As I recall, the lead in normal gasoline somehow buggered up vapor generator in the Coleman stove/lantern, so the use of "white gas" was mandated. Jim Warman, I have unlimited respect for your knowledge, and I look for your posts every day. And sometimes sarcasm is a great way to get a simple answer across. But sometimes a bit of real knowledge attached to the sarcasm is helpful, too. Bill > > So maybe my question wasn't so idiotic? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > gasoline somehow buggered up vapor generator in the Coleman > stove/lantern, so the use of "white gas" was mandated. Lead may or may not affect the health of your lanterns and stoves, but you sure don't want people to be breathing or eating it. Particularly children and women of childbearing age... So it ain't the vapor generator you should worry about. You don't want lead in the air you breath or anywhere near your food. > Jim Warman, I have unlimited respect for your knowledge, and I look for > your posts every day. And sometimes sarcasm is a great way to get a > simple answer across. But sometimes a bit of real knowledge attached to > the sarcasm is helpful, too. Yeah, I'm mostly here learn, and Jim knows his stuff. That said, while there ARE dumb questions, this wasn't one of them. ;-) -Paul > >>That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my > >>message across, most times... [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > So maybe my question wasn't so idiotic? Personally I prefer to ask dumb questions and get called "goofy" or whatever than screw something up really bad. I'll bet you could get at least $2/gallon if you sell it at a garage sale... Jim Warman wrote: > That's just me being me..... I can't change what I am - but I do get my > message across, most times... Heh heh! I'll take advice from a knowledgeable curmudgeon over a polite idot any day. But Coleman fuel is pretty pure stuff. I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I were out of gas, and I *certainly* don't think it would hurt to mix some in with a tank of gas. I once gassed up and drove about a mile before my car started running rough and died. I popped the hood and immediately saw the problem. I had one of those clear fuel filters- it was bright orange, filled with rusty water. That came out of a gas station nozzle. So using a little white gas specially purified for use in cooking as gasoline doesn't sound very risky. Here's the composition: Chemical Name COLEMAN FUEL Specifications: Coleman Fuel is a complex mixture of light hydrocarbons (primarily aliphatic) produced by distillation of petroleum. Carbon number range is C5 to C9. Coleman Fuel is fully hydrotreated to remove aromatics, and contains less than 0.001% benzene. The boiling point range is 100-350° F (Goldsmith, 2002). Coleman Fuel contains up to 25% n-hexane and up to 15% cyclohexane by weight (Calumet, 1998). Synonyms Petroleum ether, petroleum naphtha, light hydrotreated petroleum distillate, white gas, Amsol 10, Kensol 10, VM&P (varnish makers & painters) naphtha, petroleum benzin. I agree with the guy who said "why would you?" The main reason not to is that Coleman Fuel is more expensive. Which is because it's more pure. The aftershave comparison is bogus. Interestingly enough, that chemical composition info came from a page about the use of Coleman Fuel by meth labs... -Paul Thanks for that concise explanation, Paul. I tried to find out what Coleman Fuel was made of and only got a lot of what I would call "guesses." For me it's the other way around: I always have VMP Naptha on hand and wondered if I could put it in a Coleman lantern or stove. I seem to remember that naptha is a component of gasoline. Not one of the higher quality components, and it might lower the octane rating of the fuel in your tank. One gallon in an 18 gallon tank shouldn't hurt, but it might run a little funny. If your engine is already operating on the edge of the limits, you might have some problems. > I've got a few gallons of Coleman stove fuel (naptha?) I need to get rid > of. Can I put it in my 1994 Explorer's gas tank? Thanks, Bob. > I seem to remember that naptha is a component of gasoline. Not one of gasoline is a naptha. So are lots of other things. naptha is not anything in particular, it is any petroleum product or combo of products with a density in the range defined as "napthas". sdb SignatureWanted: Omnibook 800 & accessories, cheap, working or not sdbuse1 on mailhost bigfoot.com > I seem to remember that naptha is a component of gasoline. Not one of > the higher quality components, and it might lower the octane rating of > the fuel in your tank. One gallon in an 18 gallon tank shouldn't hurt, > but it might run a little funny. If your engine is already operating > on the edge of the limits, you might have some problems. Best answer I've seen yet. It WILL lower your octane, so use it a little at a time. I remember a 326 Pontiac Tempest that would hardly run at all on white gas. :-) Dave Any campgrounds near you? I expect they would be glad to have it. I suspect you could add it to your Explorer a little at a time and run without problems, but I would be concerned that a sensor might not like it and turn on the check engine light. Then you have another problem to deal with. >> I seem to remember that naptha is a component of gasoline. Not one of >> the higher quality components, and it might lower the octane rating of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Dave |
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