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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / September 2006

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1999 Explorer clacking sound

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Allan - 08 Sep 2006 01:37 GMT
Hi folks,

I have a 1999 Explorere with 118,000km on it. 4.0L engine. Lately have
been noticing a bit of clacking when under load such as entering an
uphill grade when on cruise. Sounds almost like rocker arm clack like in
some of the older straight six engines. No problem with power, kicks
down fine on steeper hills. Also, don't know if it's related, sometimes
when starting, usually after it's warm, engine will almost dye out then
catch again and come up to proper idle.

Anyone with some ideas?

Thanks

Allan
JohanB - 08 Sep 2006 05:52 GMT
Engine running to lean ??? pinging

Replaced fuel filter @ the intervals it suppose to be replaced ???????????

Or 1 of the other 50 reasons that can cause a pinging engine

check engine light on ?????????

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Allan - 08 Sep 2006 23:01 GMT
I ran into our local mechanic today, we only have the one in our small
town, he corrected my use of clanking to pinging.

He did say exactly what you are saying and also asked if check engine
light was on. No, the check engine light is not on. He said it could be
the fuel filter but was unsure. We tried to duplicate it at the time but
putting the unit in gear, stepping on the brake and putting it under
load, but no pinging sound rose.

Seems to do it more when up to operating temperature when travelling but
then only when going up a grade. From a dead stop, no ping.

Being in a farming district with alot of gravel roads, it does get very
dusty so I plan to bring it in next week for servicing. Can't hurt.

Thanks

Allan

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Al Williams - 08 Sep 2006 20:04 GMT
Is this the SOHC 4.0L engine?  If so then it could be the timing chain
tensioners.  As I said in the post a few below there were extended
warranties on this engine w.r.t. timing chain noise, etc., depending on your
mileage.  Check with a Ford dealer.

As for the starting issue this is usually caused by a dirty IAC, you may
need to clean or replace it.  See:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/0/170/article/Ford_Explorer_IAC_Fix.html

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Allan - 08 Sep 2006 23:07 GMT
Hi Al,

Thanks for the reply. As I said in a previous reply to another gentleman
that I ran into our local mechanic today, he did say that the starting
issue was related to the IAC, although he pointed out another component
that was on the air cleaner intake hose and said this could be the cause.

Going to bring the unit in for service next week, it's due. Been pretty
much trouble free since we bought it, other than replacing the front
driver side hub at 100,00km.

Thanks

Allan

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Vic Klein - 09 Sep 2006 14:01 GMT
Not sure why, but the last 2 Fords I have owned, including the '97 Explorer
I have had since new, have developed a knock running on regular gas fairly
early in their lifespan. My dad's Lincoln, while he was still alive, did the
same thing. Switch up one grade of gas from what you are using and the
problem will go away. Over the years the octane rating of regular gas has
dropped a bit at the pump.

Note, engine knock or pinging is the symptom for predetonation, which is
when the fuel/air mix explodes before the piston is on a down stroke. Lower
octane fuels burn faster, so additives to slow the burn rate are what makes
higher octanes. Predetonation IS destructive to the engine and should not be
allowed to continue.

=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA
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Captain Coleman - 09 Sep 2006 15:58 GMT
While buying a higher octane gas may reduce/eliminate symptoms of pinging,
wouldn't fixing the problem be less costly in the long run?  Here, 89 octane
runs about $.22/gallon more than 87 octane.  After a while, that price
difference would start to add up.  I have a 97 Explorer that has ran just
fine on 87 octane and now has 130K miles.  In higher elevation states like
Colorado, they sell 85 octane at the pumps.  My owner's manual says to avoid
using gas that isn't rated 87 octane, even at higher elevations.

To the original poster, have you checked your spark plugs and wires?  Spark
plug changes are at 100K mile intervals for the explorer engines.

> Not sure why, but the last 2 Fords I have owned, including the '97
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Allan - 09 Sep 2006 16:54 GMT
We plan to service the vehicle this coming week, part of that will be to
change the plugs and check the wires and change fuel filter amongst
other obvious things. We bought the vehicle used at 103,000km a year and
a half ago and have put 12,000km on it since. There was no ping when we
bought it, this started at about 115,000, hardly noticeable but getting
worse as the mileage progresses. Unlikely it had a spark plug change
since new. Still have the original tires on it, time to change them
however;-)

We don't plan to change fuel, book says to run regular.

Allan

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