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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / December 2006

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94 Explorer - anti lock brakes pulsing when parking

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Randy Johnson - 27 Nov 2006 20:52 GMT
Hello all -

   For the past few months, my anti-lock brakes will activate when pulling
into a parking space.  It can be a shock sometimes when you feel like your
brakes aren't working.  Brakes are fine at all other times - only happens
when the front wheels are cranked sharply.

   Could this be some kind of sensor issue?

   Thanks,

   Randy
carbide@egine.com - 28 Nov 2006 01:51 GMT
> Hello all -
>
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>     Could this be some kind of sensor issue?

There is a sensor at each wheel which makes a pulse each time the teeth
mounted to the hub line up with it. The ABS computer compares the time
between pulses at each wheel to see if one is skidding and shifts the
braking power to the other wheels. If you can tell which wheel is NOT
braking, that's the one to look at first. A couple of possibilities
come to mind-

* the wire going to one of the sensors may be bad, so that when you
stretch it by turning sharply the ABS computer thinks that wheel is not
turning and activates the ABS.

* your front wheel bearings may be bad, making them loose so they don't
keep the teeth properly lined up with the sensor.

You should get this fixed ASAP or disable the ABS. It could cause real
problems if it malfunctions at a critical time.
-Paul
yarrrrrgh - 19 Dec 2006 21:36 GMT
>Hello all -
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>    Randy

Just wanted to offer my experience here as well

I had a similar problem (that I initially attributed to ABS -which was
'incorrect' in a sense) that only existed when I was braking while
executing a left turn at very low speeds. [EG: coming to a stop while
turning left into a parking space.]

The previous owner obviously was financially limited, or VERY
negligent...At any rate, I had already replaced the brakes. Also
replaced the wheel bearings, and the brake line on the left front that
was cracked (thinking that maybe the was a "pressure bulge" in the
line that would exist only when the brakes were applied, but not
enough to burst the actual line. < as suggested by a mechanic.)

I had done the calipers since the left side in particular was TOTALLY
crispy. (-the piston had turned pink and white from such extreme heat,
and actually cracked in half.) This should have been a clue in
itself... but I overlooked this in the diagmosing process since I had
SO much going with this truck at that point. Oi. Hindsight's 20/20.

At any rate, the truck would stop fine when driving forward (straight)
and also be fine while braking and making a right...but try and make a
left turn into a parking spot, or coming to any stop while the wheels
were turned to the left = pulsing. But only once in awhile...(which
got more frequent eventually, allowing more accurate troubleshooting,
finally.)

All of the above was done at the same time (brake pads, calipers,
bearings, brake line), but the 'pusling' still existed. I started to
head into the ABS system but then thought further about it...and
realized that I completely overlooked the rotor.
No I didn't have them turned, even though the piston was "cooked" on
the left side, oddly enough, there was no scarring/wear evidenced on
either the right or left sides. Obviously this was an error in
judgement. *sigh*

All of my other vehicles, I've had always showed "obvious" wear, and
it was easy to tell that they needed to be turned... so the *one time*
I assume they didn't need to be turned, bit me in the a.s. -go figure.
LOL

The fix (for me)?? Replace the rotor on the left (driver's  side).
Seems the extreme heat from the bad caliper had warped it (duh). lol

Moral of the story for me? If you're replacing brakes, ALWAYS have the
rotors turned -> no matter HOW GOOD they look.
At least it would have saved me a week's worth of "hunting" for the
answer that had already slapped me in the face as plain as day.

GL with yours, and let us know how it turns out :)
yarrrrrgh - 19 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
>>Hello all -
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>executing a left turn at very low speeds. [EG: coming to a stop while
>turning left into a parking space.]

<snip>

Just wanted to also mention that, my original reply might only apply
IF it's one side "pulsing" (since I posted to that effect) and didn't
gleen from your post if it's only one side, or both...

At any rate though, hope you get it sorted quickly, as it is
definately an unsettling feeling (as well as HIGHLY unsafe) when they
do that...as I can relate a bit too well. ;)
Randy Johnson - 21 Dec 2006 14:09 GMT
Thanks for the help -

   In my case it is either direction.  I have had warping problems in the
past and do know the feeling when that happens.

   When the anti-lock brakes kick in you can hear the "groning" noise from
in front of the driver.  It is not where the brakes go out, they just work a
little bit slower than normal.  It only happens when the wheels are turned
sharply.  I have not found any signs of damage or wear on the wiring yet.  I
do need to pull the rotors to see if anything is messing with the sensor
fins on the rotor.

   The calipers were replaced two years ago - still the original hoses.

   Hopefully I will find the answer soon,

   Randyj

>>>Hello all -
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> definately an unsettling feeling (as well as HIGHLY unsafe) when they
> do that...as I can relate a bit too well. ;)

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