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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / January 2007

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1999 Ford Explorer Transmission will not hold back...

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jsandlin - 21 Dec 2006 18:58 GMT
I have a 1999 4WD Ford Explorer. 1st gear will not hold back at all. I
put it in first, and coast down a hill. Once i reach a certain
speed/rpm, it is like it is in neutral. I can rev the motor and
everything. I can put it in first while stopped, and start going, and
once i reach a certain rpm, it is like it goes out of gear a dn just
revs.

I need it to hold back in 4WD especially, so that i dont have to use
the brakes down a slick hill.

Please let me know if you have hear of this.

Thanks
Jason
Mark Sparge - 21 Dec 2006 21:02 GMT
> I have a 1999 4WD Ford Explorer. 1st gear will not hold back at all. I
> put it in first, and coast down a hill. Once i reach a certain
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> Thanks
> Jason
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Is this by chance the same '99 that had it's transfer case "pecked" on
with a hammer?  Probably about due for a (towed) trip to a tranny shop
for a look by someone who knows WTF they are doing.

My $.02
Mark
jsandlin - 21 Dec 2006 21:19 GMT
The transfer case itself was not pecked on. Just the motor that kicked
in the 4WD LO. It is known that the motor can stick if it is not used.
What is the deal with the attitude man?

Later
Jason

> > I have a 1999 4WD Ford Explorer. 1st gear will not hold back at all. I
> > put it in first, and coast down a hill. Once i reach a certain
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> My $.02
> Mark
Mark Sparge - 21 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
> The transfer case itself was not pecked on. Just the motor that kicked
> in the 4WD LO. It is known that the motor can stick if it is not used.
> What is the deal with the attitude man?
>
> Later
> Jason

Agreed, I probably overstated.  It was just that the two e-mails so
close together made it sound like there was a good possibility that the
transmission needed some internal repair, and it's not often that an IT
guy for a TV station has the tools, time and training to take on a
transmission -- time being the part of the equation that is usually in
shortest supply (next to cash) <grin>.

Keep us posted on how it comes out.

Mark
Mark Sparge - 17 Jan 2007 19:37 GMT
> The transfer case itself was not pecked on. Just the motor that kicked
> in the 4WD LO. It is known that the motor can stick if it is not used.
<snip> What is the deal with the attitude man?

> Later
> Jason

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Bump -- and another apology!!

Just today - at lunch time, my '99 with 4X4 Auotmatic was making an
unusual (I thought) amount of road noise -- sort of like when you're
running in 4X4 High.  I pulled off the road and checked - there didn't
seem to be much if any difference between Auto and High, so I switched
it to 4X4 Low.  It dropped into low just fine -- and then wouldn't
shift back out.  I remembered your post, and discovered that the
hydraulic jack has enough weight to "peck" sufficiently on the Xfer
case motor.  Restarted, and the thing shifted right out of Low and was
back to normal.

My face is red, but thanks again.  What was the result of your
transmission problems?

Mark
jsandlin - 17 Jan 2007 22:45 GMT
I haven't had time to look at the suggested link yet, but it sounds
like the problem i am having.

I am glad that the little trick helped you out. I am thinking that i
need to get a new motor for mine, becuase i had to do the same thing
again the other day. If there is a way to oil it i may try that first.

I will keep you posted.

Thanks
Jason

> > The transfer case itself was not pecked on. Just the motor that kicked
> > in the 4WD LO. It is known that the motor can stick if it is not used.
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>
> Mark
carbide@egine.com - 22 Dec 2006 01:38 GMT
> I have a 1999 4WD Ford Explorer. 1st gear will not hold back at all. I
> put it in first, and coast down a hill. Once i reach a certain
> speed/rpm, it is like it is in neutral.

That is a known problem caused by a gasket in the valve body blowing
out. It's fixed by replacing a plate in the valve body with a new one
which now has the gasket permanently bonded to the plate.  They
recommend replacing a failure-prone solenoid while you're at it.

Here's some great info on this problem from "Serious Explorations":

TSB 03-22-10...

FORD: 1995-2001 EXPLORER

ISSUE:
Some vehicles built prior to 12/1/2001 may exhibit the following shift
and engagement conditions:

No 2nd Gear
No 3rd Gear
No Engine Braking In Manual 1st.
Out of specification pressures controlled by the transmission main
control valve body separator plate may be the cause.

ACTION:
Verify the condition, the main control valve body separator plate may
need to be updated to the latest level. Refer to the following Service
Procedure for details.

See the whole article, be sure to read the stuff way down at the
bottom:
http://tinyurl.com/yg23rj
-Paul
Mark Sparge - 22 Dec 2006 02:23 GMT
> Here's some great info on this problem from "Serious Explorations":
>
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> http://tinyurl.com/yg23rj
> -Paul

Excellent Info.  Thanks for the link, it's a keeper!

Mark

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