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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / June 2007

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2006 Explorer, Tire pressure sensor fault

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nleipziger@verizon.net - 13 Jun 2007 01:23 GMT
Hello All.....  Had a problem where I had to replace a damaged wheel
on my Explorer.  The tire center also replaced the sensor and band.
However, I get a sensor error on the dash.  The tire dealer said the
dealer must reset the sensor.  True?    Thanks for your help......

Neil
Jim Warman - 13 Jun 2007 05:40 GMT
Since that sensor was already trained for your car, there should be no need
to retrain the sensor... Often, a short road test can clear error messages
since the sensors "go to sleep" after a few minutes in a stationary
condition.

If the tire shop dismounted the tire incorrectly, there is a very good
chance that the sensor may have been damaged... Scanning the TPMS for codes
would make sure that the suspect sensor is at fault... and that the concern
isn't generated by some other cause. It would be at this point that we would
have to retrain ALL the sensors in the system.... if a sensor is faulty, it
generally will not "train".

As it stands, the concern you have should not be present from  a simple tire
change-over.

> Hello All.....  Had a problem where I had to replace a damaged wheel
> on my Explorer.  The tire center also replaced the sensor and band.
> However, I get a sensor error on the dash.  The tire dealer said the
> dealer must reset the sensor.  True?    Thanks for your help......
>
> Neil
nleipziger@verizon.net - 14 Jun 2007 03:35 GMT
Jim, thanks for responding.  I beleive the tire dealer replaced the
sensor with a new one fearing the old one damaged when i damaged the
wheel.  Would that matter?

Neil

>Since that sensor was already trained for your car, there should be no need
>to retrain the sensor... Often, a short road test can clear error messages
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>> Neil
Jim Warman - 14 Jun 2007 06:04 GMT
Yes, if it is a replacement sensor, it will have to be trained to the
car.... Sensors cannot be trained individually... they will all have to be
trained as a group (initiating the training process erases all programmed
sensors). The tire shop should absorb the cost of this with no questions
asked....
nleipziger@verizon.net - 14 Jun 2007 14:28 GMT
Thank you for the info!

Neil

>Yes, if it is a replacement sensor, it will have to be trained to the
>car.... Sensors cannot be trained individually... they will all have to be
>trained as a group (initiating the training process erases all programmed
>sensors). The tire shop should absorb the cost of this with no questions
>asked....
Houston Kid - 15 Jun 2007 19:03 GMT
I just went through this because of the exact same circumstance.  I had
a flat fixed on my 2005 XLT and they damaged the pressure sensor.  They
replaced it, but I got the "sensor fault" message.  There is a lot of
incorrect information out there about training Ford sensors.  Apparently
GM sensors can "train themselves", but Ford has be done by someone that
has the proper magnetic training apparatus.  My tire store didn't have
the proper equipment and they said the dealer would have to do it.
(However, even some dealers are not up to speed on doing this
procedure).  Since I was still under 36,000 mi, the tire place said the
dealer would do it under the warranty.  So, after a couple of hours at
the dealers, the sensors were trained, the fault message was gone, and
they did it under warranty.  Thankfully I didn't have to get in a battle
with the tire store over dealer charges.

By the way, you can find the training procedure on the internet.  It
involves turning the ignition on and off three times, stepping on the
brake, having the horn honk, putting the magnet (sounds like it is a
donut kind of thing) around the valve stem (in the proper sequence), the
horn honks, move the next, etc.  It doesn't sound too hard, but you have
to have the magnet.

Houston Kid

> Thank you for the info!
>
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>> sensors). The tire shop should absorb the cost of this with no questions
>> asked....
nleipziger@verizon.net - 15 Jun 2007 23:04 GMT
Thanks for the heads up!  The vehichle goes in for service next week
for other issues.  Nothing serious.

Neil

>I just went through this because of the exact same circumstance.  I had
>a flat fixed on my 2005 XLT and they damaged the pressure sensor.  They
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>>> sensors). The tire shop should absorb the cost of this with no questions
>>> asked....
Jim Warman - 18 Jun 2007 01:53 GMT
Misinformation is right... the band and clamp style sensors cannot be
trained with the magnet. These sensors must be trained with an electronic
transponder held against the tire  (if the sensor has been propely
positioned) 180 degrees out from the valve stem. If the sensor is improperly
positioned, it will turn into a hunt AND, it is very likely that the sensor
will be damaged when the tire is removed in the future...

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