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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / June 2007

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mr fddaddy - 14 Jun 2007 00:35 GMT
for '02 Mountaineer, can anyone suggest a good model to buy? Even though
I have Fords Premium care extended warranty the service center stil
wants to charge me the going rate to start just to check out the car.
For that I would rather purchase something that will tell me the same
thing and at least I get to keep the machine in the long run. TIA
Bob - 15 Jun 2007 17:52 GMT
> for '02 Mountaineer, can anyone suggest a good model to buy? Even though
> I have Fords Premium care extended warranty the service center stil
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Don't you love that Premium Care extended warranty!? $100 an hour to
diagnose then maybe they'll fix what's wrong after about $200- $300
Diagnostic fee. But more likely they'll claim what's wrong isn't covered  .
Jim Warman - 15 Jun 2007 19:51 GMT
Let's back up a step, here, Bob..... It isn't a matter of "claiming"
anything.... With ESP. we have to get permission to do just about
anything.... As far as what is covered and what is not.... we only have to
punch the basic part number into the computer and IT decides whether
something is covered or not....

Things that amaze me.... guy ran into a post in a parking lot and wanted the
replacement covered under warranty.... Another guy had a rodent chew through
a wiring harness and wanted that covered under warranty.... you can see
where this is going, right?

I realize that there are some shops that aren't up to snuff and evem more
techs that are lacking in abilities and/or knowledge..... but you're
painting with a mighty wide brush and some of us take exception to that.

>> for '02 Mountaineer, can anyone suggest a good model to buy? Even though
>> I have Fords Premium care extended warranty the service center stil
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> Diagnostic fee. But more likely they'll claim what's wrong isn't covered
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Bob - 16 Jun 2007 01:12 GMT
> Let's back up a step, here, Bob..... It isn't a matter of "claiming"
> anything.... With ESP. we have to get permission to do just about
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>> Diagnostic fee. But more likely they'll claim what's wrong isn't covered
>> .

My apologies for the broad brush Jim, to you and all honest competent
technicians that whose work is worth every penny.

I've had several bad experiences with 2 different Ford dealers where
they diagnose by replacing expensive parts (preferably parts that aren't
covered). When the problem's still not fixed, they "claim" I needed the
part anyway.  Now I'm up to $1000 or so and still the problem is not
fixed...maybe it's your razmataz...they put in a new razmataz and it's
still not fixed but my old razmataz was about shot anyway, and anyway
the cost is all in the labor, we might as well put in a new one while we
have it apart..and the ramataz is a "wear item"- not covered..and the
truck is still not fixed...more diagnostics @$100/hour...

Again my apologies for the mighty wide brush. I have tremendous respect
for honest competent technicians. My bad attitude was meant for the
incompetent crooks whose goal is not to fix your car but to charge as
much as possible.
Happy Traveler - 15 Jun 2007 20:36 GMT
The simplest, standalone instruments available in auto parts stores for
around $100 are 'code readers'. They will read stored trouble codes, but
probably not much more. Hard to call that diagnostics, but if all you want
to know is why the Check Engine light is on, these will do.
The next type is a real scanner, which will let you read data stream and run
on-demand engine diagnostics. Most require a computer (laptop is the most
practical). Google for OBD-II scanners, and you will find quite a few, with
prices in the $150-$300 range. They are usually limited to scanning the
power train (engine, transmission, perhaps transfer case if you have one).
Airbags, ABS, Climate Control, Lighting, Door Locks, Window Motors, etc,
etc, etc, require enhanced capabilities, usually available in 'Pro' (read
$1000++) range instruments.
I found that 'Auto Enginuity' offers a Ford 'Pro Bundle' for an amazingly
affordable $400. It would cost at least four times as much to upgrade my
EASE (which now, after 7 years is getting long in the tooth). But no
experience with these people whatsoever. If anyone here has tried their
products, I would be interested to know.

>for '02 Mountaineer, can anyone suggest a good model to buy? Even though
>I have Fords Premium care extended warranty the service center stil
>wants to charge me the going rate to start just to check out the car.
>For that I would rather purchase something that will tell me the same
>thing and at least I get to keep the machine in the long run. TIA
Mikepier - 16 Jun 2007 17:29 GMT
> for '02 Mountaineer, can anyone suggest a good model to buy? Even though
> I have Fords Premium care extended warranty the service center stil
> wants to charge me the going rate to start just to check out the car.
> For that I would rather purchase something that will tell me the same
> thing and at least I get to keep the machine in the long run. TIA

Some auto parts stores like Auto Zone will check your codes for free.
 
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