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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / July 2007

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Rhys Pieces - 04 Jul 2007 04:38 GMT
Yesterday, my 94 XLT failed to start after the drive home from work.
Lots of battery and cranking but no start. Could not hear the fuel pump
running. Came back about 10:00 pm and it started like nothing was ever
wrong. So what should I check ahead of the fuel pump to diagnose and
eliminate whatever is defective; especially if anyone out there has had
this problem, too? I would like to literally work back from the pump so
I don't overlook something and have to go back.

Also, my temp gage fluctuates from just beyond the 'N' in normal down to
half way to stone cold. The system is full of coolant, no leaks, the
heater works fine so I know aside from the gage, things are working
fine. I assume that once full operating temp is reached it should stay
fairly steady and not fluctuate. Might it be a failing temp sensor from
the block or something like that? It all began after I back-flushed the
cooling system after I bought it.

Thanks for any help to identify these two issues.
Bob - 04 Jul 2007 17:20 GMT
> Yesterday, my 94 XLT failed to start after the drive home from work.
> Lots of battery and cranking but no start. Could not hear the fuel pump
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>
> Thanks for any help to identify these two issues.

Check your fuel pump relay. It's in the relay box under the hood. Switch
it with the blower relay (they're the same) or just tap it a good whack
with a screwdriver handle when you have a no start condition and see if
it works. Relays are cheap I keep a spare in the truck.

The temp gauge is probably normal, mine fluctuates a lot during
different conditions such as AC on off, slow stop and go driving,
idling, etc. Or maybe you've got some air in the system from the flush.
Tommy Wood - 07 Jul 2007 01:27 GMT
This problem on my 93 Explorer turned out to be an intermittent fuel
pump relay which wouldn't pull in when it was hot.  I got a new relay
at O'Reilly for about $3 or $4.  

>> Yesterday, my 94 XLT failed to start after the drive home from work.
>> Lots of battery and cranking but no start. Could not hear the fuel pump
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>different conditions such as AC on off, slow stop and go driving,
>idling, etc. Or maybe you've got some air in the system from the flush.
Rhys Pieces - 12 Jul 2007 04:16 GMT
I replaced my relay yesterday and so far, so good. It seems like
starting is a little quicker, too.

> This problem on my 93 Explorer turned out to be an intermittent fuel
> pump relay which wouldn't pull in when it was hot.  I got a new relay
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> different conditions such as AC on off, slow stop and go driving,
>> idling, etc. Or maybe you've got some air in the system from the flush.
mazdanavajo@gmail.com - 05 Jul 2007 23:10 GMT
Did you figure out what worked?  I've had a similar problem with a
1994 Mazda Navajo (same as the Ford) and there are lots of posts
online about this problem, none of them with a conclusive answer.
I've replaced my starter, starter relay, and coil and ignition relay,
all of which have failed to fix the problem...any conclusions?
mazdanavajo@gmail.com - 05 Jul 2007 23:12 GMT
To clarify, I find that this is a "hot restart" problem, namely that
it'll start fine if it has been sitting for a while, but when I stop
in to refill the tank (for example) there is a chance it will not
restart until I let it sit for 5-15 minutes.
AS - 06 Jul 2007 02:26 GMT
Check the position adjustment of the crankshaft position sensor.

> Did you figure out what worked?  I've had a similar problem with a
> 1994 Mazda Navajo (same as the Ford) and there are lots of posts
> online about this problem, none of them with a conclusive answer.
> I've replaced my starter, starter relay, and coil and ignition relay,
> all of which have failed to fix the problem...any conclusions?
Mazda Navajo Owner - 06 Jul 2007 22:19 GMT
Hi.  First off, where does one find said indicator?  Second, if this
were to be an indicator issue (realize that I'm no expert), why would
this have to do with this restart issue.  Specifically, the car isn't
moving, so the crankshaft shouldn't be moving (right?).  Thanks for
the contribution.
AS - 12 Jul 2007 18:28 GMT
The crankshaft is the shaft where the force from the pistons is exerted
and it converts into a torque that is transmitted to the tranny. thus, it
moves when the engine is cranking or running

> Hi.  First off, where does one find said indicator?  Second, if this
> were to be an indicator issue (realize that I'm no expert), why would
> this have to do with this restart issue.  Specifically, the car isn't
> moving, so the crankshaft shouldn't be moving (right?).  Thanks for
> the contribution.
AS - 09 Jul 2007 04:33 GMT
It depends on what engine you have, but I would suggest looking by the
cranksharf pulley to see if you can find a toothed section close to it,
that would be the ring tone, and if you have one, the sensor should be
close to it

Good luck!

> Check the position adjustment of the crankshaft position sensor.
>
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>> I've replaced my starter, starter relay, and coil and ignition relay,
>> all of which have failed to fix the problem...any conclusions?
 
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