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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Explorer / August 2007

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Air Conditioner pressure settings

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Esteban - 31 Jul 2007 16:04 GMT
Hi folk,
My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell me
the hi & lo pressure values.  Or, where to find the information.
Thanks,
Steve
Ashton Crusher - 01 Aug 2007 07:33 GMT
>Hi folk,
>My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell me
>the hi & lo pressure values.  Or, where to find the information.
>Thanks,
>Steve

It will vary some depending on the temperature.  Usually you shoot for
a low side pressure in the 30's and the high side will be somewhere
between 150 and 250.  You may need to "hot wire" the low pressure
cutout switch while you are charging it to get steady pressure
readings.
Esteban - 01 Aug 2007 19:12 GMT
>>Hi folk,
>>My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell
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> cutout switch while you are charging it to get steady pressure
> readings.

Thanks for your help Ashton.
Steve
Ed White - 01 Aug 2007 22:25 GMT
> Hi folk,
> My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell me
> the hi & lo pressure values.  Or, where to find the information.
> Thanks,
> Steve

Trying to recharge an A/C system using gauges is a poor idea. The
correct method is to pull a vacuum on the system and fill the system
with the correct amount. The gauges are measuring the evaporator and
condensor pressures, which are directly related to the temperature of
these items. As long as their is enough refrigerant in the system so
that there is liquid present at the orfice for the given external
conditions, the gauges are going to reflect an evaporator temperature
of 40 degrees, and a condensor temperature related to the outside
temperature. All this is telling you is that you have the correct
amount of refrigerant for that particuar set of operating parameters
(engine speed, evaporator load, condensor load, etc.). You may or may
not have enough refrigerant for another set of conditions. You may
also over-charge the system. I learned this the hard way.....

Ed
Ashton Crusher - 02 Aug 2007 06:09 GMT
>> Hi folk,
>> My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell me
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>
>Ed

If you look up the appropriate pressures for the ambient temp you can
pin it down a little better then that.  GM recommends just feeling the
temp of the inlet and outlet of the evap to determine amount of
charge.
Ed White - 09 Aug 2007 04:05 GMT
>>> Hi folk,
>>> My 1998 5.0 V-8 AWD is in need of more freon.  Could someone please tell
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> If you look up the appropriate pressures for the ambient temp you can
> pin it down a little better then that.

A little better maybe - but the high side pressure is mostly dependent on
the condensor temperature, which is heavily influenced by the ambient
temperature and the amount of air being pulled through the condensor.
Remember, there is a phase change happening in the condensor - the
refrigerant is going from a hot gas to a hot liquid. Once you have enough
refrigerant in the system to allow this to happen, the gauge readings are
not going to tell you much more unless there is a blockage in the lines or
unless the compressor is to weak. Once there is enough refrigerant in the
system so that liquid is present at the orifice, the low side pressure is
almost totally depndednt on the temeprature of the evaporator.

> GM recommends just feeling the
> temp of the inlet and outlet of the evap to determine amount of
> charge.

That is a quick test that will tell you that for the current conditions you
have enough refrigerant so that liquid is present at the orifice. It tell
you nothing about other conditions. Again - the only way to be sure you have
the correct charge is to pull down the system and add the correct amount of
refrigerant.

Here is another GM diagnostic tip -

Relative Temperature of High & Low Sides

The high side of the system should be uniformly hot to the touch throughout.
A difference in temperature will indicate a partial blockage of liquid or
gas at this point.

The low side of the system should be uniformly cool to the touch with no
excessive sweating of the suction line or low side service valve. Excessive
sweating or frosting of the low side service valve usually indicates an
expansion valve is allowing an excessive amount of refrigerant into the
evaporator.

Ed
 
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