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1994 Explorer Excessive vibration

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limey - 27 Dec 2003 20:00 GMT
We have an explorer that vibrates at 60 - 65 MPH.

I have replaced and balanced all the tyre, including the spare.
Had the alignment adjusted, yet the vibration persists.

Any ideas?

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Barry
Sunny Ocala, FL 34482, USA

sf/gf - 28 Dec 2003 00:55 GMT
> We have an explorer that vibrates at 60 - 65 MPH.
>
> I have replaced and balanced all the tyre, including the spare.
> Had the alignment adjusted, yet the vibration persists.
>
> Any ideas?

Had this happen to me once.  Turned out to be a belt failure in the tire.
Balancing the tire did not help.  Did you try rotating the front tires to
the back?  If vibration is then less, the problem is related to the tire or
wheel (most likely the tire).
SF
John Shoemaker - 28 Dec 2003 19:01 GMT
This was a well known problem with Firestone tires - I assume that you
are not still running them?

>> We have an explorer that vibrates at 60 - 65 MPH.
>>
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>wheel (most likely the tire).
>SF
SASCHOCH - 29 Dec 2003 19:31 GMT
>We have an explorer that vibrates at 60 - 65 MPH.
>
>I have replaced and balanced all the tyre, including the spare.
>Had the alignment adjusted, yet the vibration persists.
>
>Any ideas?

Barry:
Let me count the ways.....
-Tire out of round....  good balance won't help.
-Shocks...too loose can let a harmonic vibration get out of hand.
-Slipped belt in tire....again good balance won't help.
-Wheel bearings, too tight or too loose.
-If a 4x4 make very sure that the front hubs are Dis-engaged.  Jack up the
front end and turn tires to see if drive shaft turns....should not.
-Buy the very best high quality tires that can be had.  It seems that any
imperfection in a tire is brought out by the early expy's somehow.  I've had an
excellent ride with my Michelin LTX-M/S P235/75-15 tires.
-Tire pressure,  my michelins like 30psi.
-If you've been through several sets of tires,check the driveshaft balance.
HTH,
-Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
limey - 30 Dec 2003 00:28 GMT
Vibration was before new tyres.

All tyres are new Michelins,
Balancing has been done after new tyres and at a different dealer.

Shocks are new.

It is a two wheel drive Eddie Bauer.

Prop shaft appears to be tight on Universal joints.

No play in wheel bearings, the wheels pin freely, I doubt they are too
tight.

Ride safe

Barry

> >We have an explorer that vibrates at 60 - 65 MPH.
> >
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> HTH,
> -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
sehaare - 30 Dec 2003 13:08 GMT
The vibration at 60 to 65 mph was a design flaw for the 94 and earlier
explorers. It is so common that Ford added a 5th "shock absorber" on the
rear axle to correct this problem in 95 or 96. I had the same problem in my
94 and there is basically nothing that you can do for it. My 98 has the 5th
shock and does not have the problem.

HTH
Steve

> Vibration was before new tyres.
>
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> > HTH,
> > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
Steven Hilgendorf - 30 Dec 2003 18:28 GMT
Interesting... So that's what that "5th" shock is for on my '98 EB AWD 4
door Explorer.  Someone else here indicated that ONLY four door
Explorer's come equipped with the fifth shock, and from what I can see,
none of the online, aftermarket and/or OEM, part houses list this part
for sale so it must be a dealer only item?  Then again, none of the
online Ford parts houses list it either...

Thanks for the information,

Steven

> The vibration at 60 to 65 mph was a design flaw for the 94 and earlier
> explorers. It is so common that Ford added a 5th "shock absorber" on the
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> > > HTH,
> > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
limey - 30 Dec 2003 19:31 GMT
Many thanks, I thought I was going crazy.

Ride safe
Barry
abbl@att.net
Sunny Ocala, FL 34482, USA
http://home.att.net/~b.lockyer/index.htm

> The vibration at 60 to 65 mph was a design flaw for the 94 and earlier
> explorers. It is so common that Ford added a 5th "shock absorber" on the
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> > > HTH,
> > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
Kenny Blankenship - 31 Dec 2003 09:08 GMT
Not everybody experiences this vibration issue. I've had a '94 XLT
4-door from new and have never had this problem.

> The vibration at 60 to 65 mph was a design flaw for the 94 and earlier
> explorers. It is so common that Ford added a 5th "shock absorber" on the
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> > > HTH,
> > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
Dave - 23 Feb 2004 03:29 GMT
My Ford dealer added the fifth shock and replaced the motor mounts trying to
fix the shakes. It was all fixed when I got rid of the Firestones and got my
Michelins. Unfortunately, I did it well before they did the recall and I
couldn't recover the cost of the new tires.

dave
'94 EB 194,000 miles

> The vibration at 60 to 65 mph was a design flaw for the 94 and earlier
> explorers. It is so common that Ford added a 5th "shock absorber" on the
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> > > HTH,
> > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
Tiger - 25 Feb 2004 14:05 GMT
My '91 EB 4x4 w/200k miles also had a nasty vibration which started at about
60 to 65 mph and finally smoothed out (but never went away entirely) at
about 80mph.

I replaced both Universal joints on the main drive shaft and I now have a
smooth ride again.  There was so little "slop" in these joints when they
were still on the car that I almost couldn't detect it.  Once the drive
shaft was removed from the car, the slop was much more evident.  "U" joints
are only $8 bucks each, so it's a very inexpensive repair job.

Mike

> My Ford dealer added the fifth shock and replaced the motor mounts trying to
> fix the shakes. It was all fixed when I got rid of the Firestones and got my
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> > > > HTH,
> > > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
limey - 28 Feb 2004 15:28 GMT
That sounds like a reasonable, investment.
I did a google search for the Ford TSB 96416 Feb.96
Priced the kit, I was quoted $800 and that was supposed to be 25% discount.
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Ride safe
Barry
<???>
abbl@att.net
Sunny Ocala, FL 34482, USA
http://home.att.net/~b.lockyer/index.htm

> My '91 EB 4x4 w/200k miles also had a nasty vibration which started at about
> 60 to 65 mph and finally smoothed out (but never went away entirely) at
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> > > > > -Tire pressure,  my michelins like 30psi.
> > > > > -If you've been through several sets of tires,check the driveshaft

> > > > balance.
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > > -Steve ('94 EB 4x4)
SASCHOCH - 31 Dec 2003 13:39 GMT
Barry:

>Vibration was before new tyres.

If it's not tire related, that leaves only the drivetrain.
1) out of round wheel.
2) driveshaft out of balance.
3) radius arm bushings.
Thats all I can think of right now.  
Be sure to visit the explorer owners website at
www.glue.umd.edu/~singletn/exp.html     and look at the writeup on vibrations.

>All tyres are new Michelins,

Good.

>Balancing has been done after new tyres and at a different dealer.
>
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>
>Barry

good luck.
-Steve  ('94 EB 4x4)
limey - 31 Dec 2003 16:04 GMT
Many thanks Steve, that web site is a godsend.

I ride a Honda Goldwing we have our own News Group

news://news.armchair.mb.ca/wings.

and Web Site.

http://www.woti.org/

The help and assistance given Worldwide is nothing short of phenomenal.

Looks like I have found another one.

On another note, a local dealer has a 1999 4 X 4 Eddie Bauer for $14k, low
miles.

Is this a reasonable price, we are looking to part exchange our 95 Camry,
the wife's car.

I am not losing my 94 EB.

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Ride safe
Barry
Sunny Ocala, FL 34482, USA
http://home.att.net/~b.lockyer/index.htm

> Barry:
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> good luck.
> -Steve  ('94 EB 4x4)
 
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