I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
What other tires would people recomend for the Explorer???
Thanks in advance,
Mike
AZGuy - 26 Jan 2004 04:49 GMT
>I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
>I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
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>Mike
I don't have any experience with them but Costco is having their
yearly sale on Bridgestone and Michelin tires. Go to www.costco.com
and look up 225-70-15 and similar sizes and I think there are some
Bridgestones for around $85 each. If you buy 4 tires you get $15 off
each tire. They also have the Michelin LTX but they are about $110
each.
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Jim Warman - 26 Jan 2004 08:46 GMT
Gad.... I could only wish..... Got a new set of LTX 255 75 R16s last summer.
By the time Gouge and Screw Tax and tire tax was done with me I was sitting
hard by 900 loonies.
BTW, I'm more than happy I went with the Michelins....
Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net
> I don't have any experience with them but Costco is having their
> yearly sale on Bridgestone and Michelin tires. Go to www.costco.com
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Steven Hilgendorf - 26 Jan 2004 14:26 GMT
Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is "Gouge and Screw Tax"?
Thanks,
Steven
> Gad.... I could only wish..... Got a new set of LTX 255 75 R16s last summer.
> By the time Gouge and Screw Tax and tire tax was done with me I was sitting
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Jim Warman - 26 Jan 2004 19:29 GMT
Officially called "Goods and Services Tax"..... it's a value added tax that
is applied to nearly everything Canadians purchase. Some exemptions are
understandable and some are just plain wierd...... white milk = exempt.....
chocolate milk = taxable..... 6 donuts = exempt.... 5 donuts = taxable...
7% is the current rate... tahnkfully, Alberta still doesn't have sales tax.
HTH
Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net
> Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is "Gouge and Screw Tax"?
stevef - 26 Jan 2004 21:41 GMT
Jim-do you have one of our recycled politicians up there??
Officially called "Goods and Services Tax"..... it's a value added tax that
is applied to nearly everything Canadians purchase. Some exemptions are
understandable and some are just plain wierd...... white milk = exempt.....
chocolate milk = taxable..... 6 donuts = exempt.... 5 donuts = taxable...
7% is the current rate... tahnkfully, Alberta still doesn't have sales tax.
HTH
Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net
> Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is "Gouge and Screw Tax"?
Jim Warman - 27 Jan 2004 08:38 GMT
No.... AFAIK we have only home grown dorks..... well aside from the ones
that we allow into the country because they're bad enough to come under
close scrutiny "back home".
I'm trying very hard to avoid launching into a political diatribe at this
point....... let's just say that dog barf ON a toss cushion isn't all that
much better than dog barf BESIDE the toss cushion.
I don't think anyone could have said it better than Waylon...... what this
world needs is a few more rednecks.
Jim Warman
as politically incorrect as ever
mechancic@telusplanet.net
> Jim-do you have one of our recycled politicians up there??
> Officially called "Goods and Services Tax"..... it's a value added tax that
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Ben Kaufman - 27 Jan 2004 01:05 GMT
>Officially called "Goods and Services Tax"..... it's a value added tax that
>is applied to nearly everything Canadians purchase. Some exemptions are
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>> Jim, if you don't mind me asking, what exactly is "Gouge and Screw Tax"?
Wasn't there also something to do with the color of margarine?
As for the tire question, I have been very happy with my Pirelli Scorpion ATs.
They are great in the snow and wet surfaces, at least compared to my original
Firestone. However, they are noisier and not quite as smooth so consider them
only if you do off-road or serious snow.
Ben
Jim Warman - 27 Jan 2004 08:31 GMT
At the risk of showing my age.... back in the '50s margarine was white and
came in a sealed pouch...... Inside the pouch was a little dye capsule, the
idea being that you could burst the cap and knead the colour through the
margarine. You were allowed to fool your guests into thinking they were
eating butter but you weren't allowed to fool consumers into thinking they
were buying butter. Having tasted the difference..... well, what can I say..
I do see the odd vehicle with the Scorpions but I can say that they aren't
real popular...
Jim Warman
mechanic@telusplanet.net
> Wasn't there also something to do with the color of margarine?
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Stephen M. Gluck - 26 Jan 2004 13:00 GMT
I bought my Michelin Cross Terrains from Costco. I did'nt care about
the price because Ford paid for them because of the recall. No one
else had them in the NYC area. Costco had them in in 3 days after the
order. I think I paid $126 each including tax, installation and
balancing. Best tires i've ever had.
>I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
>I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
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>Mike
Martin F. O'Rourke - 29 Jan 2004 05:07 GMT
Same for me. I got them at Sears for 125 +, when Ford paid for them. I
paid the +.
Since then they've gone up to 150.
However they are probably the best tire I've ever had, for all of the
good reasons.
>I bought my Michelin Cross Terrains from Costco. I did'nt care about
>the price because Ford paid for them because of the recall. No one
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Jim Tiberio - 26 Jan 2004 18:28 GMT
> I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
> I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
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> Mike
The best tires I've have been the Goodyears they used to install but my
local tire center doesn't warrantee them. I've had ok experiences with the
Michelins. Tried Pirelli Scorpions after the tire swap event and absolutely
hated them. Currently I'm running Toyos and am very happy with them.
Stephen Read - 26 Jan 2004 19:57 GMT
Michelin Cross Terrain SUV are fabulous on the Explorer but won't come
cheap. Low noise, good wet and dry traction and surprisingly good in the
snow. I tossed the old BFG donuts right in the garbage where they belong.
Steve R
Joe - 26 Jan 2004 21:55 GMT
I'll second the vote on the LTX's. I put 85,000 on mine before they even
started to show wear. I replaced them with BFG Long Trail T/A. They're
alright, but I miss the Michelins. Cost was the only factor, and I wish I'd
spent the extra $100. Someone mentioned Pirelli Scorpions, but Tire Rack
says they're not approved or recommended for the Explorer so you might want
to stay away from them.
If you think your 91 has another 70-80K left in it, spring for the
Michelins. You won't be sorry.
> I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
> I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
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> Mike
Tiger - 27 Jan 2004 00:47 GMT
Thanks for all the responses.
So far, it looks like the general consensus opinion is: if you can afford
them, buy Michelins.
Joe brings up my other main concern, and that's whether or not I think I'll
get another 80,000 miles out of the old girl; that would put her very close
to the 300,000 mile mark.
Mike
> I'll second the vote on the LTX's. I put 85,000 on mine before they even
> started to show wear. I replaced them with BFG Long Trail T/A. They're
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> If you think your 91 has another 70-80K left in it, spring for the
> Michelins. You won't be sorry.
R&B - 27 Jan 2004 01:32 GMT
I also replaced the Firestones on my 2001 Sport Trac with Michelin Cross
Terrains. I now have about 22K on them. Just completed a 1200 mile trip, and
the vehicle and tire performed flawlessly. Drove from Fort Worth Texas to El
Paso, at 70 to 80 MPH. The tires were balance and rotated before the trip.
Thirty years ago, when statistics on tire ratings and comparisons were
available, Michelin has the lowest number of defects, 2% compared to the
closest competitor at that time, Goodyear, which had 10% defects. Every
other tire maker was down hill from there. When I am driving at highway
speeds I want safe tires on my car. Michelins still fit the bill.
Ron
> I need new tires on my old '91 EB 4WD. (207,000 miles and counting)
> I currently have Michelin LTX, and I love them, but they are VERY expensive.
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> Mike