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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Falcon / March 2004ED occasional overheat
may on occasion get to 3/4 on the gauge only when in city traffic and at stop lights, thermostat was full of sh.t, changed that, its better but still not terrific.. is this a sign of the radiator being full of sh.t? is it possible to clean it back to satisfactory or is it better to just replace it ? this isn't with the A/c on either, or is this just a characteristic of that antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an ef for her. Could be, if ya thermostat was clogged, i would have ya radiator cleaned out as well, also have it burped correctly Peter > may on occasion get to 3/4 on the gauge only when in city traffic and at > stop lights, thermostat was full of sh.t, changed that, its better but still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an > ef for her. these are self bleeding are they not, thats whyat the 2 little hoses are for on the surge tank arent they? > Could be, if ya thermostat was clogged, i would have ya radiator cleaned out > as well, also have it burped correctly [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an > > ef for her. >these are self bleeding are they not, thats whyat the 2 little hoses are for >on the surge tank arent they? Thats correct, basically fill the thing to the top, drive it around a while and it will self purge then check water levels again. But i'm with Raven, if your thermo was dirty, then your radiator is almost certainly going to be, as long as the core is OK then you can have it cleaned, cheapest way is to remove it yourself and take it to a radiator specialist. One way to check a rad is to run the engine to operating temp then move your hand across the core, feeling for cold spots, this would indicate a blockage but its a bit hard to do that on a Falcon nowadays. Oh yes, I would also flush the cooling system, seperatly do the heater core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. cheers. The head gasket was changed not long ago, its obvious they've fixed the symptom and not the cause. I may rip out the radiator this weekend, looks like the original one from new. > >these are self bleeding are they not, thats whyat the 2 little hoses are for > >on the surge tank arent they? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Oh yes, I would also flush the cooling system, seperatly do the heater > core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. An ED radiator would be due for replacement by now. Besides becoming clogged they also simply loose their efficiency over time. We used a mates supercharged V6 VT to tow my ski boat recently, which didn't like the workout and began to overheat. Turned out to be a worn out radiator. Watch the plastic necks where the hoses attach. They are prone to turning brittle and snapping off. Pat > cheers. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Oh yes, I would also flush the cooling system, seperatly do the heater > > core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. how much is a *new* radiator, any idea ?? or would it be better ripping one off a wrecked AU with the thermo fans, assuming the radiator is the same?? > An ED radiator would be due for replacement by now. Besides becoming clogged > they also simply loose their efficiency over time. We used a mates [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > Oh yes, I would also flush the cooling system, seperatly do the heater > > > core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. 'bout $280 from Natrad. Cheap really. They also do overhauled 2nd hand ones - straightened, cleaned, painted and with new tanks for about $150 ish. > how much is a *new* radiator, any idea ?? or would it be better ripping one > off a wrecked AU with the thermo fans, assuming the radiator is the same?? [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > > Oh yes, I would also flush the cooling system, seperatly do the heater > > > > core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. I can get them wholesale so I might be able to get them cheaper. I'll see what they are, im not fond of anything remanufactured, new is always best. > 'bout $280 from Natrad. Cheap really. They also do overhauled 2nd hand > ones - straightened, cleaned, painted and with new tanks for about $150 ish. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > heater > > > > > core too although ist a bastard of a job to get to the hoses. > I can get them wholesale so I might be able to get them cheaper. I'll see > what they are, im not fond of anything remanufactured, new is always best. You may find that even with a new rad, the car may still run a bit hotter in trafic. This is prolly because the block has some scale buildup, but almost alwys the engine is OK tho. Jason What i had to do with my EA was top the fluid up in the expansion bottle, turn the rheater of full and let the car idle at under 1000 rpm for 5 minutes. As i stood watching the expansion bottle the odd bubble was seen and heard so dont ask me why or how it works but it does lol Peter > may on occasion get to 3/4 on the gauge only when in city traffic and at > stop lights, thermostat was full of sh.t, changed that, its better but still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an > ef for her. > may on occasion get to 3/4 on the gauge only when in city traffic and at > stop lights, thermostat was full of sh.t, changed that, its better but still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an > ef for her. Dont leave it that way it is if you want to keep this car. We had EAs, EB,-EF and EL wagons out in the west in the hottest of temps, cruising at 120ks with AC on and the wagons loaded with equipment. They never looked like overheating, The visous fan models did run about 1/8th gauge higher, the elect fan ones stayed the same temp wit perhaps slight increases. Admittedly you can tolerate some cooling system degradation of performance, but not much, it aint worth it. Jason the "mechanic" shes taken it to claims the head gasket is corroded - funny it was supposed to of been changed 12 months ago. I guess its a lesson to not trust what people say and to ask for evidence. I have a feeling its still going to overheat when hes done his job, proving that it wasnt the cause, then I'd like to see his explanation for that, i bet there will be no refund on the unessesary work either if thats what happens. > may on occasion get to 3/4 on the gauge only when in city traffic and at > stop lights, thermostat was full of sh.t, changed that, its better but still [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > antiquated clutch fan, perhaps I should install twin electric fans from an > ef for her. >the "mechanic" shes taken it to claims the head gasket is corroded - funny >it was supposed to of been changed 12 months ago. I guess its a lesson to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >bet there will be no refund on the unessesary work either if thats what >happens. If its only 12 months old and you used coolant, I would find it highly unlikely to be a corroded gasket. I'd want to see the gasket and the head when its off. |
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