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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Falcon / July 2004

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Auto to Manual Swap no crap

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Waity - 19 Jun 2004 01:03 GMT
Allright guys, let's cut the crap.  I relly need to know a bit about
this auto to manual swap, but without people guessing.  I have read
other posts on here with people saying "I think  you need to do
this.", "I think you need to do that.".

I don't want people who are guessing.  I don't wanna sound like a
pric, allthough I probably do, I just really wanna hear it from
someone who has done this.

Basically, I have an EF Auto and an EA Manual and I want the manual in
the EF.  I want to know the following:

1. Will the box fit?
2. What bits do I need to swap?
3. What bits do I need to buy?
4. Does anyone want my broken old auto?

Any help would be muchly appreciated.

Cheers, Waity.
Raven - 19 Jun 2004 09:39 GMT
Bit of a hassle   ya gotta get a dual brake and clutch reserve, oil lines
remove ya old brake pedal and fit a smaller pedal to allow for new clutch
pedal, and clutch assembley then in some cases ya also gotta change the rear
crown cos the ratio's may be different. I did a EA few years back, took a
day if ya have all the parts in ya reach. Then i dont know what your state
laws are. Up here in Queensland, we have a different licence, and the
transport dept states if it has 2 pedals, its auto, if its got 3 its manual.
Also check out insurance too mate...

Hope this has helped

Peter
Queensland
> Allright guys, let's cut the crap.  I relly need to know a bit about
> this auto to manual swap, but without people guessing.  I have read
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>
> Cheers, Waity.
Waity - 19 Jun 2004 15:45 GMT
> Bit of a hassle   ya gotta get a dual brake and clutch reserve, oil lines
> remove ya old brake pedal and fit a smaller pedal to allow for new clutch
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> >
> > Cheers, Waity.

Hi Pete, I am also up here in queensland and have a manual license, so
that should be sweet.  Thanks for mentionin the insuarance idea
though, I hadn't even thought of it, should be sweet though.

Also, my mate with the ea has bailed, so I am just gonna look for any
5 speed wreck and buy it for the bits.

Cheers, Waity.
Raven - 19 Jun 2004 23:48 GMT
Gidday;
             I remember my EA had no probs over the pits, just long as
every thing worked by the dept books. The insurance was just as easy, I had
to submit a clause explaining the date, and such when the conversion was
done, then the paper was was changed to suit the 5 speed manual. The box
itself was a bit oif a hassle seating it properly and making sure all cables
were free and such. Suncorp was sweet as they just wanted to get the
engineering report to say who and when teh conversion was completed for
their paper work, i think just to make sure it was done by a fully
authorised mechanic and such.

Peter

> > Bit of a hassle   ya gotta get a dual brake and clutch reserve, oil lines
> > remove ya old brake pedal and fit a smaller pedal to allow for new clutch
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>
> Cheers, Waity.
Noddy - 26 Jun 2004 00:23 GMT
"Waity" <big_waity@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> I don't want people who are guessing.  I don't wanna sound like a
> pric, allthough I probably do, I just really wanna hear it from
> someone who has done this.

Why don't you get an attitude and have some patience, or just f.ck off and
pay someone who *knows* what they're doing.

You won't get any help out of me, that's for sure :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.
Waity - 28 Jun 2004 05:11 GMT
Mate, I didn't want to start a fight about this, like I said, I don't
want to sound like a pric.  I have just been reading other threads
where people have been fighting about whether or not it can be done.
If you don't wanna help me then that is fine by me.  As for paying for
someone who knows what they are doing, I simply can't afford to.  I
have found someone who has done it before and is going to help me do
it, even without the "help" from you.

Thanks, Waity.

> Why don't you get an attitude and have some patience, or just f.ck off and
> pay someone who *knows* what they're doing.
>
> You won't get any help out of me, that's for sure :)
Noddy - 28 Jun 2004 08:48 GMT
> Mate, I didn't want to start a fight about this, like I said, I don't
> want to sound like a pric.

<snip>

Yeah, but you did.

Here's a tip: If you're going to ask other people for help, ask nicely. It
doesn't cost you anything.

Hope it goes well.

--
Regards,
Noddy.
Gill Elmgren - 02 Jul 2004 02:28 GMT
Is your cranksaft drilled for a pilot bearing,  this would be a good start.
Also make sure you have the right flywheel for the early fords. Seems I
remember something about the 221 - 260 cid being differant from the 289 cid

regards
Gill

> > Mate, I didn't want to start a fight about this, like I said, I don't
> > want to sound like a pric.
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> Regards,
> Noddy.
Jason James - 06 Jul 2004 21:01 GMT
> Is your cranksaft drilled for a pilot bearing,  this would be a good start.
> Also make sure you have the right flywheel for the early fords. Seems I
> remember something about the 221 - 260 cid being differant from the 289 cid
>
> regards
> Gill

I put a auto Hemi 245 into a manual, and the spiggot bearing hole was there
ready to take the bush. Also the same deal with a Golf/Passat 1500cc swap.
Then it dawned on me. The hole is also used on autos (without the bearing in
it) as a torque conv support-boss receiver.

Jason
Waity - 15 Jul 2004 09:51 GMT
Just so ppl know, I decided to get a mechanic to quote on the cost of
the job, he hasn't given me a price yet but he says it is definately
doable and worth doing.  I'll keep you posted as to the cost!

Waity.
The Raven - 16 Jul 2004 04:43 GMT
Waity;
          With a few tools, patience am sure ya could do it yourself,
pretty simple really. Get all the stuff ya need, brake/clutch bottle, pipes
for such, clutch pedal assembly, diff ratio crown for rear end and a 6 pack
lol  2 days you would have it back on the road. If the motor is ok bolt the
new gearbox on, clutch plate and pressure plate to suit and such and away ya
go.

Peter

> Just so ppl know, I decided to get a mechanic to quote on the cost of
> the job, he hasn't given me a price yet but he says it is definately
> doable and worth doing.  I'll keep you posted as to the cost!
>
> Waity.
Waity - 17 Jul 2004 05:52 GMT
Thanks for the tip pete but I think it will be a couple of cartons of
Bundy! lol  For the interest of others, I have found a link for others
who have done it:  http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=33910&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
 Definately worth ready.

Waity.
The Raven - 17 Jul 2004 10:40 GMT
Gee  if ya got Bundy's  i might come and offer you a hand and lunch  lol

Peter

Good luck any way mate

> Thanks for the tip pete but I think it will be a couple of cartons of
> Bundy! lol  For the interest of others, I have found a link for others
> who have done it:  http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=33910&highlight=auto+manual+conve
rsion
>   Definately worth ready.
>
> Waity.

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