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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Falcon / September 2003XR 6 Turbo second hand
is there any problems with them, engine or driveline wise???????? The munual box is the weakest link. FF > is there any problems with them, engine or driveline wise???????? > The munual box is the weakest link. > > FF goodbye... :) > goodbye... > :) What, are you plonking the guy just because he has an opinion different to yours? :) Regards, Noddy. It was a reference to the tv 'quiz' show the weakest link... > > goodbye... > > :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. > It was a reference to the tv 'quiz' show the weakest link... Ah. Funny. Regards, Noddy. HAHAHAHAHA You can`t expect anything better from a Noddy.... Jason`s on the same planet... Brett..... > > goodbye... > > :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Noddy. > HAHAHAHAHA > You can`t expect anything better from a Noddy.... > > Jason`s on the same planet... What one would that be? :) Regards, Noddy. > is there any problems with them, engine or driveline wise???????? Yeah, they've got an absolutely *shitful* manual gearbox :) I'm not kidding here, the T5 in the XR6T is appalling, and I've driven out of their brain VN Commy's that felt *shitloads* better. For my mind, there is no way would I accept a box of that standard in a car costing that much money, but many seem willing to and that just let's Ford get away with it. As far as "value" of the Turbo 6 as a used car goes, no one can really tell you anything with any accuracy. I've driven one that was somewhat problematic, but that was just a single example and I haven't heard much about any major problems. I've only driven three manuals, but they've all had shitful gearboxes :) However, I *will* suggest this: If you're contemplating one of these cars down the track as a used purchase, there are a few things to consider. Firstly, you should bear in mind that these cars are Ford Falcons, not Ferrari's, and they're built using the most cost effective materials by people who don't care about them once they leave the plant. The Falcon 6 has *never* had a reputation for precision construction or quality materials, and as "fancy" as the new engine is, it's still a cheap, low quality engine that will fall over quickly if subjected to continued abuse. You should *also* bear in mind that these things are predominantly purchased by people who intend to cane them, and presumably off-load them before they get their fingers burnt. I won't say they'd be a *bad* used purchase, because I simply can't suggest that with any truth. However I'd offer the same advice to anyone contemplating a used Turbo 6 as I would those thinking of buying a used WRX, and would be to look for one cheap enough to allow you to factor an engine rebuild into your budget, as it's reasonable to expect that you may need one. If you get lucky and don't, well and good. If you do, then you won't be overly disappointed.... Regards, Noddy. >Yeah, they've got an absolutely *shitful* manual gearbox :) Matter of opinion, true they should be better but they simply arn't shitful, and actually own one rather than just driven one once. Oh and yes I have complained about its shift quality. The reason why it appears worse than the previous T5 Falcons is the shorter stick. Best thing to do, don't take anyone opinion, drive it yourself. >If you're contemplating one of these cars down the track as a used purchase, >there are a few things to consider. Firstly, you should bear in mind that >these cars are Ford Falcons, not Ferrari's, and they're built using the most >cost effective materials by people who don't care about them once they leave >the plant. >The Falcon 6 has *never* had a reputation for precision >construction or quality materials, and as "fancy" as the new engine is, it's >still a cheap, low quality engine that will fall over quickly if subjected >to continued abuse. This is completely unsubstantiated by ANYONE as yet and applies to all bread n butter cars for that matter so is a mute point. In fact, is misleading given the fact that Falcon sixes are exrtremely reliable. >You should *also* bear in mind that these things are predominantly purchased >by people who intend to cane them, and presumably off-load them before they >get their fingers burnt. Partually true, they will be generally purchased by enthuesiasts, many will take care of them far better than the average Joe and his Falcon XT or Commodore VY. Many will be on some sort of lease nowadays and will be sold at the 2, 3, 4 year mark. >I won't say they'd be a *bad* used purchase, because I simply can't suggest >that with any truth. However I'd offer the same advice to anyone >contemplating a used Turbo 6 as I would those thinking of buying a used WRX, >and would be to look for one cheap enough to allow you to factor an engine >rebuild into your budget, as it's reasonable to expect that you may need >one. I'm gonna have to say bullshit to this one Nod :) most will be sold with less than 100,000k's on the clock. Generally, Falcon engines are good for an easy 200,000k's, of course its a new engine and we don''t know its long term reliability yet but I think its safe to say you won't need to factor an engine rebuild in. >If you get lucky and don't, well and good. If you do, then you won't be >overly disappointed.... This should be said the other way around, if you get unlucky and buy a caned one then you will be dissapointed, again the same applies to ANY used car. what about the xr8 then ???????? > is there any problems with them, engine or driveline wise????????
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