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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Falcon / May 2006

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EL Heater being weird

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DILLIGAF - 23 Apr 2006 14:34 GMT
Hey all.
         Got an EL Futura and the Heater takes forever to change to upper
body heat, everything else is fine except this only on HEAT. now i
replaced the control unit on the dash and the Vacuum hoses to the
firewall, they are fine. the hoses under the bonnet are fine. Does anyone
know if it is or could be in the firewall that goes through, or what is in
there, when i turn the car on to accessories it makes a sound like your
running yours fingers around an inflatted baloon, the squecky grinding
noise, any help would be great.
DILLIGAF
Brenden Will - 24 Apr 2006 03:08 GMT
Did you replace all the vac lines in the dash? As it sounds like you either
have a vac leak in the dash or the tap in the engine bay is staying closed
not allowing hot water to the core.

EL's are a tad funny. Next hot day you have (hot enough for aircon). Put the
aircon on your face and boot it. As the vaccum changes it'll swap from face
to demist on its own. As the vac comes back it'll swap to your face. It's
very common even in pre-EL's.

Vac controls are just plain silly IMO.
> Hey all.
>          Got an EL Futura and the Heater takes forever to change to upper
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> noise, any help would be great.
> DILLIGAF
DILLIGAF - 24 Apr 2006 06:21 GMT
Nah, i thought i had to take the dash apart to get to that, if it is i'm
gonna have to buy em. all the cold settings work fine and the air con, it
heats when on hot and changes with all the settings EXCEPT when i put it
to the upper body heat, It eventually cuts in which is why i thinking it a
kink. When i put the new one in everything worked fine as new untill i
turned it off and restarted the car.....
Don't know if this has anything to do with it but when i was playing
around with it last night on the way to work as it finally kicked over to
upperbody heat from windscreen demist my battery warning light started to
lightly flash, but it only did it then, couldn't see if it would do it
again cause by the time it would have changed again i would have been at
work.
DILLIGAF - 24 Apr 2006 07:38 GMT
What do i need to do to get to the vacuum hoses in the firewall?
TPr - 30 Apr 2006 04:15 GMT
| EL's are a tad funny. Next hot day you have (hot enough for aircon). Put the
| aircon on your face and boot it. As the vaccum changes it'll swap from face
| to demist on its own. As the vac comes back it'll swap to your face. It's
| very common even in pre-EL's.
|
| Vac controls are just plain silly IMO.

That sounds like a 1 way valve that's not doing its job or a vacuum leak,
that surly is not normal behaviour when the system is working properly.
Vacuum controls have been around forever, the falcons system is nothing
special and pretty simple compared to some.
Brenden Will - 02 May 2006 02:17 GMT
It does it in every EL I've driven inc my own. I work for the a gov't dept.
Even the ones we had as fleet did it. Its not something anyone would notice
unless they're a lead foot. I didn't know about it myself till I was told by
a guy who works for Toyota.
>| EL's are a tad funny. Next hot day you have (hot enough for aircon). Put
> the
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> Vacuum controls have been around forever, the falcons system is nothing
> special and pretty simple compared to some.
DILLIGAF - 04 May 2006 04:52 GMT
All fixed. Was a bad kink just in behind the firewall. moved it around a
bit and is all fine, thanks for the help.
John - 04 May 2006 16:09 GMT
Is that inside the engine bay? Or under the dash?

> All fixed. Was a bad kink just in behind the firewall. moved it around a
> bit and is all fine, thanks for the help.
aussiblu - 07 May 2006 10:30 GMT
Was the kink on the engine or interior side? I am having similar
problem's with my son's EF when on anything but face level it
blows out both floor and demister (even when on bi-level face
and feet).  Face level works fine on its own.  I also don't hear
the required hissing sound when I first  switch to bi-level or
feet and demist which suggests there is a disconnected or kinked
hose somewhere. I just want to narrow down the search options
before I pull the dash ( or better still to avoid pulling the
dash).  Interesting this car although it has factory fitted air
only has the seven  (7) rather than eight  (8) vacuum hoses
entering the socket on the heater case. The factory manual shows
eight for air conditioned cars and seven for non-air conditioned
cars. The connector for the extra hose (black cabin temp vacuum
supply) is a blind fitting so it was clearly never meant to be
there either. I gather though that it isn't unusual for this
hose not to be fitted.

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