EF and EL were very similar on the outside, its underneath in the suspension
area where the biggest modifications took
place. Both are quite robust and are probably amongst the best looking base
model falcons ever made.
IIRC it was the front suspension on the EF series one which was problematic
and series 2 and the EL fixed
the glitch.
Both should be fairly problem free, depending on the applications you intend
to use them for?
> if this question can be answered could you tell me please?
>
> like which of the 2 has less problems or are they about the same?
Adam B****** - 26 Sep 2003 01:31 GMT
just as a daily driver.... first car...
deciding whether to get a more performance VL/VLturbo, or a manual EF/EL...
> EF and EL were very similar on the outside, its underneath in the suspension
> area where the biggest modifications took
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> > like which of the 2 has less problems or are they about the same?
TheTaipan - 26 Sep 2003 01:50 GMT
How much can you afford? Insurance has gotta be pretty nasty for a VL
Turbo?
EF/EL would make a good daily driver - much roomier for a cruise, and have
more torque.
VL would have to save you a lot of pretty pennines on the initial outlay,
but even then you have
a car which is highly sort after by the sheep - so the price is going to be
inflated - where the
EF/EL should be a lot easier to find a good example cheaply as there are a
lot more around,
and there is less competition for them.
Good luck.
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Kieron - 26 Sep 2003 02:08 GMT
>just as a daily driver.... first car...
>
>deciding whether to get a more performance VL/VLturbo, or a manual EF/EL...
I don't think a non turbo VL would be quicker than a manual EF/L in a
straight line, and certainly wouldn't be thru corners. I'd be leaning
towards the newer car too as most VL's would have been flogged to
death by now and a VL turbo would be virtually impossible for you to
insure if you are young and its a first car.
Bob the builder - 26 Sep 2003 10:29 GMT
Vl's aren't faster than EF's at all, unless modded or are a Turbo. a 5 speed
manual VL has to be running well and truly into the redzone just to keep up
with an automatic EF sedan. How do I know? From much, much experience.
a 5 speed EF/L with extractors and a decent exhaust will kill a VL very
convincingly and is a much, much better car period.
> >just as a daily driver.... first car...
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> death by now and a VL turbo would be virtually impossible for you to
> insure if you are young and its a first car.
> if this question can be answered could you tell me please?
>
> like which of the 2 has less problems or are they about the same?
There's not a great deal in it, and it's mainly cosmetic.
Very late EF's and EL's went back to a distributor after the mainstream coil
pack ignition system of the EF series, and that's something I never really
understood. I found the coil pack system to be pretty reliable, while the
dizzy system is a *prick* to work on.
The EL was basically a very minor facelift/improvement of the EF, and the
improvements were pretty much limited to throwing in a few extra small items
to carry the thing over until the AU arrived. If you're going a bit more
upmarket than a basic GLi, then there were some nice differences in the
Fairmont Ghia, like thicker window glass and better sound deadening, which
made the things considerably quieter than the EF Monty.
Aside from this, it's much of a muchness and basically depends on which one
you think *looks* better. Personally, I liked the EF, but to each their own.
Either one will serve you well if you get a good one...
Regards,
Noddy.
Kieron - 30 Sep 2003 05:14 GMT
>The EL was basically a very minor facelift/improvement of the EF, and the
>improvements were pretty much limited to throwing in a few extra small items
>to carry the thing over until the AU arrived. If you're going a bit more
>upmarket than a basic GLi, then there were some nice differences in the
>Fairmont Ghia, like thicker window glass and better sound deadening, which
>made the things considerably quieter than the EF Monty.
IIRC, the EL also copped a revised rear suspension layout to finally
cure the slightly odd handling, the watts link mount on the diff I
think was changed, plus longer trainling arms with modified pickups?
Noddy - 01 Oct 2003 09:23 GMT
"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> IIRC, the EL also copped a revised rear suspension layout to finally
> cure the slightly odd handling, the watts link mount on the diff I
> think was changed, plus longer trainling arms with modified pickups?
It got some of the EF XR series rear suspension as standard.
I never found it to make much of a difference to be honest...
Regards,
Noddy.
Kieron - 02 Oct 2003 03:08 GMT
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>I never found it to make much of a difference to be honest...
you havn't pushed em hard enough :)