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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Falcon / October 2003Bathurst 2003
We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... FF Second and Third are good results, plus Murphy did drive well. Cheers Reeky > We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... > > FF 6 of the top ten were falcons. (trying to find something positive) I wanna know why Ambros and Ingall didn't cream everyone. What's going on there? Ambrose has been unstoppable this season (well, when he is actually driving the car). Cheers, Daniel. "6 of the top ten were falcons. (trying to find something positive)" If kudos were given for quantity over quality then maybe the above statement would mean something. But it doesn't so the above is irrelevant. The quality finished at the front of the field and that's all the matters. FF > 6 of the top ten were falcons. (trying to find something positive) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Daniel. 2nd place = first loser 3rd place = second loser Winning Bathurst is everything in Australian motorsport. Nobody remembers anything else. Who finished 2nd in 1985? Who finished 3rd in 1998? Most people don't know or care! FF > Second and Third are good results, plus Murphy did drive well. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > FF then change teams if its so bad > We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... > > FF NEVER! > then change teams if its so bad > > > We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... > > > > FF The first 8 retirements were also commodores. Mick > NEVER! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > > > FF haha i thought the same thing when i read that > NEVER! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > > > FF I Like falcons because they're generally a nicer car to drive than a commodore and also the interior (excluding AU) has always looked better and more modern than the equivalent commodore. I couldn't give a toss what a totally irrelevant shell of a vehicle does on a racetrack, the whole idea is very boring aswell. Wow, cars driving around in circles all Sunday afternoon, I can think of allot better things to do. there's more to enjoying Fords than a stupid race. > haha i thought the same thing when i read that > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 29/09/2003 >I Like falcons because they're generally a nicer car to drive than a >commodore and also the interior (excluding AU) has always looked better and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >in circles all Sunday afternoon, I can think of allot better things to do. >there's more to enjoying Fords than a stupid race. Yep, you could watch a green ball being smacked back and forth over a net, watch a bunch of guys in tight shorts chase a wobbly ball around or even watch a bunch of blokes standing around on an oval smacking a red ball (in between SMSing porn) around.... > >I Like falcons because they're generally a nicer car to drive than a > >commodore and also the interior (excluding AU) has always looked better and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > or even watch a bunch of blokes standing around on an oval smacking a > red ball (in between SMSing porn) around.... Don't actually follow any sports at all, no one in my family does, cept some troglodytes that are related by marriage, not saying that its bad to follow sport either. How very un-Australian. > >I Like falcons because they're generally a nicer car to drive than a > >commodore and also the interior (excluding AU) has always looked better and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > or even watch a bunch of blokes standing around on an oval smacking a > red ball (in between SMSing porn) around.... >Don't actually follow any sports at all, no one in my family does, cept some >troglodytes that are related by marriage, not saying that its bad to follow >sport either. > >How very un-Australian. Its nothing to do with sport, your belittling people who watch car racing as a form of entertainment which is un-Australian. I'm not keen on Opera but I respect that others enjoy it and its not boring to them. I agree that the you cannot draw any parallels between the race cars and the road cars anymore. However as the profile of the event is so large the prestige of winning the event results in huge marketing bonanza for the winner. So much so that the general public fail to see that the road car is not the same as the race car. For example some of my mates ask my why the Holdens do not race with the GenIII V8! The general public is ignorant. FF > I Like falcons because they're generally a nicer car to drive than a > commodore and also the interior (excluding AU) has always looked better and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 29/09/2003 Maybe true mate, but im a Ford Fan thru thick & thin... > We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... > > FF So am I - it just that the thin spells are so f.cking long that it sucks. Why can't it be the other war around with Ford winning most of the races and Holden getting the odd occasional Bathurst victory? FF > Maybe true mate, but im a Ford Fan thru thick & thin... > > We lost again yesterday - f.ck it sucks being a Ford fan........... > > > > FF >So am I - it just that the thin spells are so f.cking long that it sucks. >Why can't it be the other war around with Ford winning most of the races and >Holden getting the odd occasional Bathurst victory? We are getting there with the most wins to Falcons this year. Don't forget that HRT (Greg #51 is in reality a HRT car) are the only Holden team doing the winnings and they have been in the business as the largest, best funded team for around 15 years, Ford have woken up to that and as a result we have FPR in there first year of racing in a new car. So does this mean that we have to wait 10 years before FPR starts dominating? (because that is how long it took to get HRT to the position it has been in for the last several season) FF > >So am I - it just that the thin spells are so f.cking long that it sucks. > >Why can't it be the other way around with Ford winning most of the races and > >Holden getting the odd occasional Bathurst victory? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to that and as a result we have FPR in there first year of racing in a > new car. >So does this mean that we have to wait 10 years before FPR starts >dominating? (because that is how long it took to get HRT to the position it >has been in for the last several season) I don't see how you came to that conclusion, obviously the circumstances are completely different. All I was essentially saying is FPR havn't even raced a full season yet and considering that, they havn't done to badly. As for domination like HRT, I don't think any team will do that again. That domination was aided by the AU Falcon being a dud race car and the parity rules not being correctly applied although i'm not taking anything away from HRT, they were clearly the best during their dominating period. How did I come to that conclusion? Easy - HRT was formed in 1987 and were basically crap until 1996 when Craig Lowndes won everthing that season. Since 1996 HRT have been dominant for every season except for 1997 when Glen Seton won the ATCC. And the only reason for this was due to the poor reliability of the HRT cars in 1997 due to continual drive train failures (expecially the rear axle as HRT experimented with light weight differentials which was banned not long after that season). See, you don't need to be Einstein to work that out. FF > >So does this mean that we have to wait 10 years before FPR starts > >dominating? (because that is how long it took to get HRT to the position it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > anything away from HRT, they were clearly the best during their > dominating period. >How did I come to that conclusion? Easy - HRT was formed in 1987 and were >basically crap until 1996 when Craig Lowndes won everthing that season. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >See, you don't need to be Einstein to work that out. So you are saying just because HRT took ten years to do it then FPR will? If this is what your basing it on, then i'm afraid I see your logic as flawed. No I'm not saying it will take 10 years as nobody really knows how long it will take. But don't expect it to be overnight. And don't forget that FoMoCo is notorious for getting cold feet and pulling the plug on short notice and without warning. FF > >How did I come to that conclusion? Easy - HRT was formed in 1987 and were > >basically crap until 1996 when Craig Lowndes won everthing that season. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If this is what your basing it on, then i'm afraid I see your logic as > flawed. >No I'm not saying it will take 10 years as nobody really knows how long it >will take. But don't expect it to be overnight. And don't forget that FoMoCo >is notorious for getting cold feet and pulling the plug on short notice and >without warning. I never expected it to be overnight, neither did FPR. I don't actually expect to see FPR dominate in the way HRT did neither. I do however expect to see FPR a force up the front in the next year or 2. Ford won't be pulling the plug on FPR/Prodrive, they have finally worked out what Holden have known all along and in fact what Ford essentially introduced to the Aussie market.
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