Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / December 2004
Focus pretty dependable
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ledpeddle - 01 Dec 2004 18:35 GMT I see the car must be dependable as I do not see to many complaints and no posts. How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. Thanks
Don McC - 01 Dec 2004 21:04 GMT "ledpeddle" gtscj2002@yahoo.ca wonders:
> How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. All you wanted to know and more.
http://focaljet.com/ Click on forums
http://www.myfordfocus.com/ Click on message boards
http://www.focushacks.com/index.php?a=1
Don
Gino - 01 Dec 2004 22:03 GMT It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? Using the criteria "that as there are no post and not seeing many complaints" that makes the Focus dependable is some what short sighted. Please excuse this little rant, but I really hate it when people make statements with out any support. If you were to "really" search the web you will find many, many complaints about the North America and Mexican made Ford Focus.
How about - Just to name a few: Defective fuel pump, Defective back brakes, Ignition lock freezing up, Defective light switch, Defective front rotors and pads, Rusting around trunk lid, Front fender liners that rattle and drive one nuts, Defective front springs rust and break, Squeaking front and rear suspension, Gas filler door made out of inferior plastic keeps breaking, Defective rear suspension cause the inside of the rear tires to wear faster, Defective front end links on front sway bars, Defective thermostat housing, cracking due to inferior material, Defective paint on midnight blue cars, Paint cracks, Ford does not offer that color anymore, because of the paint problem, And coming soon to a Ford Focus near you, an exhaust system rusting from the inside out. And it goes on, The biggest disappointment with this car is that Ford is very slow to acknowledge that they have a problem with these cars.
I see the car must be dependable as I do not see to many complaints and no posts. How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. Thanks
Freddie the Crook Finder - 01 Dec 2004 23:52 GMT >It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? >Using the criteria "that as there are no post and not seeing many [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >The biggest disappointment with this car is that Ford is very slow to >acknowledge that they have a problem with these cars. For the record my "midnight blue", late 2001, North American made little jewel has had none of these problems. 38,000 miles and one trip back to the dealer to repair a fluid leak. These cars have done nothing but improve dramatically since early production models.
I guess misery does love company, but generalities suck.
Freddie
John R Cambron - 11 Dec 2004 08:36 GMT > >It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? > >Using the criteria "that as there are no post and not seeing many [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > I guess misery does love company, but generalities suck. My 2003 Zetec ZX3 has run trouble free for over 157,000 miles. I did replace the front breaks and rotors at around 135,000 miles. The ignition lock has been replaced once, however that's because I am in and out of the car over a dozen times a day five days a week. The check engine light has only come on only once in those same 157,000 miles.
 Signature John in the sand box of Marylands eastern shore.
Dave Gower - 02 Dec 2004 04:28 GMT > It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? ...> If you were to "really" search the web you will find many, many complaints
> about the North America and Mexican made Ford Focus. > > How about - Just to name a few: Hmmm...our lying troll is back? (or maybe never went away). Similarities: uses an alias, accuses anyone who defends the Focus of being a Ford employee, makes sweeping generalities not supported by the evidence.
Gino - 02 Dec 2004 18:30 GMT I respect the right of people to express their opinion and do not call them "lying Trolls" if I do not like what they say. I guess you do not. I pity you, you must a very self centre, selfish person.
To accuse someone of being a lying troll are you TOO not making sweeping generalities not supported by the evidence. And any how who elected you newsgroup monitor.
I make some true statements about the problems that I have had with my car, and I am lying troll.- have you not had problems with your Focus, you have from your previous posts!
Maybe you are in denial that these problems with the Ford Focus which I listed exist Because they do I have the work orders.
Maybe you should enlighten yourself and visit these sweeping generalities supporting the evidence websites.
http://www.focaljet.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php http://www.fordfocusbrakeproblems.com/ http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/complaintsearch.cfm http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/
Oh by the way I forgot to mention the rear wheel bearing failures - 2 times and the front bolts that hold on the ball joints.
And for your general information I still have the car and drive it every day. AND I am still going to be posting to this newsgroup whether you like it or not.
I still respect your right to voice your opinion - always bearing in mind that old saying that opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one.
> It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? ...> If you were to "really" search the web you will find many, many complaints
> about the North America and Mexican made Ford Focus. > > How about - Just to name a few: Hmmm...our lying troll is back? (or maybe never went away). Similarities: uses an alias, accuses anyone who defends the Focus of being a Ford employee, makes
ledpeddle - 02 Dec 2004 18:35 GMT > It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? > Using the criteria "that as there are no post and not seeing many [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I see the car must be dependable as I do not see to many complaints and no > posts. How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. Thanks Gino first, I do not work for Ford. Second I was trying to start a post in here. I do own a 2003 Focus and have had no problems as of yet, crossing my fingers. I find this little car very good to drive. A lot of peopl do look at it when you drive around. Thanks for the heads up on problems.
Josef Erbs - 02 Dec 2004 20:17 GMT > I do own a 2003 Focus and have had no problems as of yet, crossing > my fingers. I find this little car very good to drive. A lot of peopl do > look at it when you drive around. Thanks for the heads up on problems. Hi Luckylie for You most of the problems are gone since 2002. Here in Europe we don´t have these problems at all. bye Jupp
Freddie the Crook Finder - 05 Dec 2004 04:22 GMT >It depends on your point of view, do you work for Ford? >Using the criteria "that as there are no post and not seeing many >complaints" that makes the Focus dependable is some what short sighted. >Please excuse this little rant, but I really hate it when people make >statements with out any support. We all do!
>If you were to "really" search the web you will find many, many complaints >about the North America and Mexican made Ford Focus. And just how many Focus have been produced in North America and Mexico, and what is the percentage of the total that have had one or more of the problems on your laundry list? Do you know? I didn't think so. Until you have that information You're simply another chronic complainer who's simply full of it as a Christmas Turkey.
So what makes your unsupported statements worth any more than anyone else's? Are they simply not more unsupported ca ca? That would be the logical conclusion.
Freddie
John DH - 05 Dec 2004 09:08 GMT Hi,
Sorry, don't agree. My Focus is 6 months old, has had a new inlet manifold, exhaust still smokes like a Clyde Puffer, gearbox is 'notchy' to say the least, air conditioning doesn't work properly, etc, etc. It has been into the workshop 12 times. I bought it to replace my ageing escort with 180,000 miles on the clock. Now that car was ace, it didn't go very fast or anything like that. But it was so reliable. Apart from regular maintenance the only thing that cost me was a new alternator at 120,000 miles. I would really love my escort back. The only reason I have never posted here is because I am trying to forget. My guess is that the only solution is to sell the focus and buy something else. Lastly, my dealer, really nice people, it's just Ford, your cars really suck.
John D
> I see the car must be dependable as I do not see to many complaints and no > posts. How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. Thanks Saywhat? - 05 Dec 2004 16:03 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and buy something else. Lastly, my dealer, really nice people, it's just > Ford, your cars really suck. My 01 ZX3 has 70,000 miles. I have replaced the tires and the alternator. I have had an EGR sensor replaced under warranty as well as all the recall items. The timing belt will be the next item.
Other than that, this car has been great. 28 - 33 mpg. Goes through snow just fine. Relatively fun to drive. If nothing else goes wrong in the next 30,000 miles, I will consider this one of the best cars I have ever owned.
ROBERT TURNER - 06 Dec 2004 01:11 GMT >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > next 30,000 miles, I will consider this one of the best cars I have ever > owned. My 2000 has been just fine. Yes, there has been a couple of recall items, my windshield leaked into the passenger floor board, had door gaskets replaced. I have a standing letter for fuel pump recall, as well as spring coils should I need them. Other than that, to this point, the car has been great. I think all cars constantly have recalls, and problems. We are just, excuse the pun, "focused" on ours because that is what we all own. The dealership has been great here. No problems. My car was in an accident a month ago, and they returned it looking like new.
ROBERT TURNER - 06 Dec 2004 01:16 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>I see the car must be dependable as I do not see to many complaints and no >>posts. How would one go about doing up my 2.0 Zetec. Thanks John,
What does your dealership have to say about these issues? They should be able to provide some informative answers. I would really question them!!
John DH - 10 Dec 2004 10:04 GMT > What does your dealership have to say about these issues? They should be > able to provide some informative answers. I would really question them!! Sorry for the delay in responding.
My dealer has been very understanding and agrees that my car is defiantly not up to the standard that they or I expect, however, Ford insist that the car is up to spec. and refuse to do anything about it.
Rather than take further issue with Ford (which has a detrimental effect on my blood pressure) I have now sold it.
Cheers
John D
John DH - 10 Dec 2004 15:17 GMT > My dealer has been very understanding and agrees that my car is defiantly I mean 'definitely'
John DH
THOR - 08 Dec 2004 17:47 GMT : Hi, : Sorry, don't agree. .... "gearbox is 'notchy' to say the least"
This is where you lost all credibility.
The shifting on the Ford Focus manual transmission is among the best.
ledpeddle - 09 Dec 2004 14:10 GMT > : Hi, > : Sorry, don't agree. .... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The shifting on the Ford Focus manual transmission is among the best. I second that my trans is very good and shifts great I like the dual mode shifting as well eiather low rpm or high.
John DH - 10 Dec 2004 09:58 GMT > This is where you lost all credibility. Why?
> The shifting on the Ford Focus manual transmission is among the best. My dealer even says that the gear shift was no where near what they would expect and below their standard, however Ford insist that it is all within spec.
Anyway not a problem, I have sold it.
John D
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