Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
HomeAnnouncements
Discussion Groups
By Brand
BMWChevroletDodgeFordGMHondaLexusMercedes-BenzNissanPeugeotToyotaVolkswagenOther Brands
By Topic
4x4 CarsRVsDrivingMaintenance & RepairCar AudioCollectible Cars
Country Specific
Australian ForumsUK Forums
ArticlesAuto InsuranceBuyingCars & TechnologyMaintenanceMiscellaneousSafety
DMV Resources
Related Topics
MotorcyclesBoatsMore Topics ...

Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / April 2005

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Zetec Stumble and Stall

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
tekguy4 - 07 Apr 2005 16:38 GMT
My 01 Focus S2 with Zetec was giving a bad DPFE code and had all the
signs/symptons associated but the car was still very driveable.
Yesterday it got worse, car would want to stall when idling and
occassionally would have no power for a few minutes then clear up and
run fine. I changed DPFE and reset computer by unhoooking battery for a
hour last nite. This cleared trouble code, but I am still having same
problem (although a little better than yesterday) on a 30mile ride into
work this morning it ran pretty good when cold, but once it warmed up
and I started hitting stop and go, it started stumbling bad, wanting to
stall, then it had no power for anout 5 miles (in middle of nowhere) so
I kept chuggin on, then all of a sudden it started running great for a
few mile befor acting up again. And again no trouble codes being given,
check engine light is off.

Anyone have any ideas?
I am considering going ahead and replacing EGR valve itself and
replacing fuel filter?
If i disconnect airhose to EGR valve the stumble stall shoud go away if
its the EGR, can the EGR get stuck open?
Could dealer have given me bad dpfe or one with wrong calibration?

Thanks for anyinput.
tekguy4 - 07 Apr 2005 19:37 GMT
Disconnecting vacuum line to egr valve didnt help, if I understand
correct, this should caused the EGR to stay closed (which should have
cleared up the stumble if its egr or dpfe related) and the computer to
cause the check engine light to come on.

Result problem still there and no check engine light came on.
Henri - 08 Apr 2005 22:28 GMT
What kind of Focus is an S2 model?

My 01 Focus S2 with Zetec was giving a bad DPFE code and had all the
signs/symptons associated but the car was still very driveable.
Yesterday it got worse, car would want to stall when idling and
occassionally would have no power for a few minutes then clear up and
run fine. I changed DPFE and reset computer by unhoooking battery for a
hour last nite. This cleared trouble code, but I am still having same
problem (although a little better than yesterday) on a 30mile ride into
work this morning it ran pretty good when cold, but once it warmed up
and I started hitting stop and go, it started stumbling bad, wanting to
stall, then it had no power for anout 5 miles (in middle of nowhere) so
I kept chuggin on, then all of a sudden it started running great for a
few mile befor acting up again. And again no trouble codes being given,
check engine light is off.

Anyone have any ideas?
I am considering going ahead and replacing EGR valve itself and
replacing fuel filter?
If i disconnect airhose to EGR valve the stumble stall shoud go away if
its the EGR, can the EGR get stuck open?
Could dealer have given me bad dpfe or one with wrong calibration?

Thanks for anyinput.
Tim.. - 09 Apr 2005 16:44 GMT
> What kind of Focus is an S2 model?

Series 2, or facelift version.

Tim..
Henri - 09 Apr 2005 19:47 GMT
Must be a UK model.

The North American 2000 - 2003 Focus cars have a problem with the fuel
module ( pump), the problems you are having are similar to a fuel module
going bad.

> What kind of Focus is an S2 model?

Series 2, or facelift version.

Tim..
Bob Roberts - 11 Apr 2005 02:20 GMT
> Must be a UK model.

It's a limited edition North American model (2001 or 2002?) with a few minor
enhancements. If I remember correctly it has some suspension upgrades, a
spoiler on the rear hatch and a chrome exhaust tip.

HTH,
Bob
tekguy4 - 11 Apr 2005 15:31 GMT
All s2's where American 2001 models with Liquid Grey Metallic Paint and
Dark Charcoal (black) interior with a unique (to the S2) pattern on the
seat and chrome exhaust tip.

The big enhancemnt was that S2's came with a different suspension
package.
In europe at that time focus's where sold with basically 3 suspension
packages from Ford. 'Soft', 'Medium' and 'Hard'

All american FOcuses where equipped to what is equivelant to the
European 'soft' suspension package. The S2 came with what basically
equals the 'medium' european suspension packege. From underneath the
car you can see S2 labels on various suspension pieces.

I never drove an SVT version, but I have driven a couple regular
focuses and mine does have a firmer more controlled feel on the road.
tekguy4 - 11 Apr 2005 15:55 GMT
Anyways, friday I drove home from work fine, like car never had a
problem, saturday I drove 70 miles round trip to pick up a fuel pump,
car ran like new, no problems.

So saturday I did the following:
Replace PCV valve, replace fuel filter, changed oil, cleaned Air filter
(I have CAI), clean MAF and EGR valve, then added some fuel system
cleaner to tank. Car ran wonderfully all day saturday. (did not change
fuel pump as it was runnning great)

Sunday, I filled  tank and car started running crappy again. (it runs
alot better than last week but car refuses to idle- it will just stall
out if I dont keep it revved above 1000rpm, also minor stumbling on
occasion)
I realized car for last 2 days was around 1/3 tank or less.

So I am assuimg that this weekend like it or not I am dropping tank and
changing pump. But from what I whave read and what seems obvious, fuel
pump issues usually get worse when tank gets lower, I seem to have
opposite. I will know for sure by friday if my car runs better as week
goes on (and tank gets lower).

Anyone have any thoughts? Since I am dropping tank (what a pain in the
a.s that is going to be), I want to clean it out, any ideas or tips on
what works best to remove any residue or smudge that might be there?
Don McC - 11 Apr 2005 21:45 GMT
> So I am assuimg that this weekend like it or not
> I am dropping tank and changing pump.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts? Since I am dropping tank
> (what a pain in the a.s that is going to be),

Sure, let Ford do it for you...for free.
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=37&did=848

--
Don

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are much more pliable.
~ Mark Twain
tekguy4 - 13 Apr 2005 16:02 GMT
Checking out my coil I noticed the connection harness is brittle and
cracked.

I have just ordeered a new genuine ford coil ($39 delivered, gotta luv
ebay) to replace the old one.

Anyone know where I can source the 'harness' for my car, besides Ford,
called a couple dealers and cheapest price was $65 for a 4 prong
harness that costs maybe a dollar to produce.

Anyone know the coil-wire harness part number?

I can check junkyards and cut one out, but I have read these things get
brittle with age, so I would rather off buy a new one.

Thanks for any input.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.