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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / July 2005Focus TDCi fuel consumption
Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), 7.2 - 7.6 litres/100km on a mix of long and short trips, lightly loaded. This our first diesel-engined car, and I'm beginning to think the diesel "economy" thing is b**s**. Is this consumption normal, or is there something wrong with the engine?  SignatureAll the best David Millen Xativa, Valencia www.fincacasablanca.com please reply in group if you have to email me, remove the obvious: davidtheobvious@millen.com > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 > Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), > 7.2 - 7.6 litres/100km on a mix of long and short trips, lightly > loaded. This our first diesel-engined car, and I'm beginning to > think the diesel "economy" thing is b**s**. Is this consumption > normal, or is there something wrong with the engine? I've got a 1.6TDCi C-max and currently get about 52mpg, although this varies depending on where I get the diesel (supermarket or other garage) and the type of driving. Long journeys obviously give better economy. However, short journeys give quite poor mpg. SignatureSee what I am selling (if you have nothing better to do that is!!!): http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Smarter-org-uk Thanks >> Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 >> Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and the type of driving. Long journeys obviously give better economy. > However, short journeys give quite poor mpg. I've been tracking the mileage on our '03 TDCi wagon (115hp) over the last 37'000 km since we bought it. We definitely have very mixed driving (commute to work, city driving, 140kph motorway on weekends, cold winters, snow etc.). It has *averaged* a real-world 5.7 l/100km. This is based on km driven and litres filled, not the overly-optimistic onboard computer readout. Can't complain at all, as I flog the thing repeatedly. Stephen > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 > Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), > 7.2 - 7.6 litres/100km on a mix of long and short trips, lightly > loaded. This our first diesel-engined car, and I'm beginning to > think the diesel "economy" thing is b**s**. Is this consumption > normal, or is there something wrong with the engine? I've never got less than 45mpg out of my TDCi 115. Mostly 30 mile plus trips twice daily, mixture of motorway and country roads. Driven in a "press-on," but not overtly wasteful manner, I seem to average around 45 to 47. I vaguely recall pushing that up to 52mpg once on a series of long motorway runs. Don't know what the official figures are for the TDCi 100 though. Gary. >> Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 Focus >> TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), 7.2 - 7.6 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > motorway runs. Don't know what the official figures are for the TDCi 100 > though. I see pretty much the same from my 2003 TDCi 115 Ghia. Not quite as good I'd hoped, but not bad. ISTR it was quite a bit worse for the first 5K miles though. "David Millen" wrote... > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 > Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), > 7.2 - 7.6 litres/100km on a mix of long and short trips, lightly > loaded. This our first diesel-engined car, and I'm beginning to > think the diesel "economy" thing is b**s**. Is this consumption > normal, or is there something wrong with the engine? i would certainly expect better economy... are the exhaust gases unusually smokey? if so it could be your egr valve playing up. although, i must admit the defective ones i've seen are *very* smokey and the fuel economy has been *much* lower than you are experiencing. fairly quick to replace but, iirc, about 180 quid plus vat for the part. Signaturegandissy > "David Millen" wrote... > > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > fairly quick to replace but, iirc, about 180 quid plus vat for the part. Indeed, there is a voluntary recall for EGR valves on virtually all Ford TDCi's, which are to be changed if the owner reports poor starting , poor mpg, poor performance and smokey exhaust. This applies to the mondeo 2litre TDCi's also. It is also thought to be a possible cause of premature failed turbo's on this engine also. Tim.. >> "David Millen" wrote... >> > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >TDCi's also. It is also thought to be a possible cause of premature failed >turbo's on this engine also. Thank you, Gandissy and Tim. No, it's not smoking, and it starts fine and goes all right for a diesel. But that gives me some ammo for discussions with the dealership. SignatureAll the best David Millen Xativa, Valencia www.fincacasablanca.com please reply in group if you have to email me, remove the obvious: davidtheobvious@millen.com In alt.autos.ford.focus David Millen <notdmillen@newsfeeds.com>: > Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 > Focus TDCi 100. It's averaging 37.5 - 39.5 mpg (Imperial gallons), > 7.2 - 7.6 litres/100km on a mix of long and short trips, lightly > loaded. This our first diesel-engined car, and I'm beginning to > think the diesel "economy" thing is b**s**. Is this consumption > normal, or is there something wrong with the engine? Had a Ford Sierra TD for ages and always mentioned if letting someone drive not used to a diesel, they'd always turn gears/revs much to high. Like driving a petrol engine with little displacement which is common over here. Sure this will lower your mileage easily without making you a second faster. Best idea would be getting an eye on the torque plot of your engine and compare it with one of a petrol engine in the size/power and you should see. SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' #bofh excuse 387: Your computer's union contract is set to expire at midnight. I've had my 115 TDCI focus from new (march 03) and it's never returned more than 48-49 mpg. My previous 306 HDi was much better, but not as good to drive. It's had the egr valve changed and it didn't make any difference to the mpg. It's got 49,000 mile on it now and I'm thinking of changing to anew focus 2.0 TDCI 136 bhp version - any comments?? Cheers Geoff > In alt.autos.ford.focus David Millen <notdmillen@newsfeeds.com>: >> Just put the third tank of fuel through our recently acquired 2003 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > it with one of a petrol engine in the size/power and you should > see. Geoff wrote in message ... >I've had my 115 TDCI focus from new (march 03) and it's never returned more >than 48-49 mpg. My previous 306 HDi was much better, but not as good to [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> #bofh excuse 387: Your computer's union contract is set to >> expire at midnight. Try to get a stage III engine, the stage IV has poorer consumption even according to ford. This probably one Ford consumption statistic that you can believe in. I have read that early Cmaxs were returning poor consumption and that this had been fixed from 54 plate cars onwards. My Ford dealer refused to be drawn on speculation of poor fuel performance recently so it's possibly true! Have you lurked on http://www.ffoc.co.uk/forum/ to see what they reckon? Bob thanks for the website - intersting reading. After having had a test drive in the 2.0 TDCi - I must have one!!! Seriously though, I hope it does a little better than my particular car, maybe the 6th gear will help?? Cheers Geoff > Geoff wrote in message ... >>I've had my 115 TDCI focus from new (march 03) and it's never returned [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Bob I’ve only had my 2003 115 TdCi a couple of weeks but the first figures show 5.6 to 5.7 / 100 km for a 1500 km round trip on autoroutes plus 300 km in and around town. Most of this was with the air-con switched on and with a fuel leak on the injector ramp (see other posting). Not bad at all. However, I am VERY careful on the use of the accelerator - pulling away from lights/tollbooths/stops etc and anticipating when overtaking to minimize speed loss/ recovery. It’s a major factor in economy - maybe more for diesels than petrol engines, I don’t know. >I’ve had my 115 TDCI focvs from new (march 03) and >it’s never retvrned more [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >contract is set to >> expire at midnight. >Ive only had my 2003 115 TdCi a couple of weeks but the first figures >show 5.6 to 5.7 / 100 km for a 1500 km round trip on autoroutes plus [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >to minimize speed loss/ recovery. Its a major factor in economy - >maybe more for diesels than petrol engines, I dont know. Thanks to all. Looks like either the TDCi 100 is thirstier than the 115, or I need to modify my driving style. I have suspected for a while that much of the supposedly better economy of diesels is a result of the driving habits of the folk who select them in preference to petrol engines because of their greater economy - a bit of a circular argument, and probably one for another thread! SignatureAll the best David Millen Xativa, Valencia www.fincacasablanca.com please reply in group if you have to email me, remove the obvious: davidtheobvious@millen.com >>I've only had my 2003 115 TdCi a couple of weeks but the first figures >>show 5.6 to 5.7 / 100 km for a 1500 km round trip on autoroutes plus [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > to petrol engines because of their greater economy - a bit of a > circular argument, and probably one for another thread! Over 40'000 km of driving my TDCi has averaged a real-world 5.8L/100km (don't believe the onboard computer; it is hopelessly optimistic). For general commuting I move with or faster than the flow of traffic, on the open road I tend to boot it quite a lot (that torque is sooooo tempting). Motorway speeds are in the range of 130 - 140 kph (80 - 85 mph) and I charge up and down Swiss alpine passes quite regularly. I have mountain bikes or kayaks on the roof half the time. Summary: I am *not* careful and still manage great economy. If I really try to baby it, I have managed under 5 for a motorway trip (flat, 110 - 120 kph). The absolute record, however, goes to my girlfriend who managed 2.8 L/100km for the 10km from the filling station to home! (lots of downhill) Stephen >> Thanks to all. Looks like either the TDCi 100 is thirstier than the >> 115, or I need to modify my driving style. I have suspected for a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >goes to my girlfriend who managed 2.8 L/100km for the 10km from the filling >station to home! (lots of downhill) That sounds like my driving style, pointing to the 100 engine as the culprit; over 4000km so far, I'm averaging 7.5l/100km - nearly 30% worse than your 115. SignatureAll the best David Millen Xativa, Valencia www.fincacasablanca.com please reply in group if you have to email me, remove the obvious: davidtheobvious@millen.com |
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