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Mike - 26 Jun 2005 18:46 GMT

I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last of
old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off from
stationary and have not stalled it in the last week or two. However today I
was turning right into a very busy road with not many gaps and I managed to
stall it. This left me a foot into the main road and the car behind nearly
shunting me as he I guess was going to follow me out.

I had the air con on and the car has now done 1450miles. Does any one else
have this problem or would like to comment. It could just be a "different"
driving experience but I drove a Golf TDi for around a week and had no
problems.

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Thanks - Mike

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Stephen F. - 27 Jun 2005 07:01 GMT

>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
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> Please reply to the group - Location North East UK.

Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
catches me out from time to time. Oddly, once you have it rolling in first
gear, it has quite a good "anti-stall" program, allowing it to chug along at
800rpm or so. Part of the problem is that Ford used a dual weight flywheel
which has a bad unbalance at very low revs, so the computer is programmed to
kill the engine if it looks like the revs are going to dip really low.

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David Millen - 27 Jun 2005 10:36 GMT

>Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
>had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
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>which has a bad unbalance at very low revs, so the computer is programmed to
>kill the engine if it looks like the revs are going to dip really low.

I frequently stall mine (TDCi 100) but I'm used to petrol engines - I
also stalled a Golf TDI which I hired a little while ago.

Can you tell us more about the engine management program update
please?

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Stephen F. - 27 Jun 2005 12:10 GMT

>>Even two years into ownership I have to admit I occasionally stall it. I
>>had the engine management program updated, which helped, but it still
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> Can you tell us more about the engine management program update
> please?

Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service tech
just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.

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David Millen - 27 Jun 2005 14:58 GMT

>Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
>latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service tech
>just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.

Thanks, Stephen.

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Mike - 28 Jun 2005 22:13 GMT

Thanks for all the replies and info.

Mike

>>Next time you're in for service just ask if the engine management has the
>>latest program version. It's a flashable ROM in the ECU. The service
>>tech
>>just plugs in the diagnostic computer and uploads the new software.
>>
> Thanks, Stephen.

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Acedrew - 27 Jun 2005 22:41 GMT

I've had mine for 2 years now.

It can catch you out, particularly when not warmed up - especially if the
aircon is on also.

I found the "surge" effect after you change up quite pronounced at first,
however I dont notice it all all now.

I have found the feel of the engine can change markedly after a service too.

>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
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> Thanks - Mike

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Mike - 28 Jun 2005 22:10 GMT

Thanks for all the replies and info.

Mike

>I have just replaced my 1999 Focus 1.8 LX with a new Focus TDCI 115 (last
>of old model). Initially I found it very easy to stall when setting off
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> Thanks - Mike

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kerry nicqulette - 10 Jul 2005 19:08 GMT

When i picked mine up i stalled it 3 times before even making it out of the
dealership!!!! Im a mechanic and are used to jumping in and out of
different cars all day but this really cought me out!

MC.

www.ffoc.co.uk aka FocusGhia2L

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> Thanks for all the replies and info.
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>> Thanks - Mike

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