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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / October 2005

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EZM - 19 Sep 2005 16:35 GMT
how do i get my car to go faster then 110
if my car top speed is 140
Roarmeister - 20 Sep 2005 05:15 GMT
>how do i get my car to go faster then 110
>if my car top speed is 140

Get a new engine computer chip. It is set at the factory for max. 106 mph
google Diablo chip
Ed - 10 Oct 2005 19:06 GMT
If you have a Focus your top speed is nowhere close to 140 assuming we are
talking about MPH. You'd need about 200hp at the wheels to see 140 mph in a
Focus....

> how do i get my car to go faster then 110
> if my car top speed is 140
me/2 - 11 Oct 2005 00:40 GMT
:>If you have a Focus your top speed is nowhere close to 140 assuming we are
:>talking about MPH. You'd need about 200hp at the wheels to see 140 mph in a
:>Focus....

Not completely true.  :-)  The SVT Focus is good for 135-140 MPH per
SVT.  Mine has seen 125+ MPH on the track before running out of
straightaway.  That's with 170 HP at the engine and around 145-150 HP
on the ground.

me/2

:>> how do i get my car to go faster then 110
:>> if my car top speed is 140
Michael Heiming - 11 Oct 2005 19:55 GMT
In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>:
> me/2

> :>> how do i get my car to go faster then 110
> :>> if my car top speed is 140

> :>If you have a Focus your top speed is nowhere close to 140 assuming we are
> :>talking about MPH. You'd need about 200hp at the wheels to see 140 mph in a
> :>Focus....

> Not completely true.  :-)  The SVT Focus is good for 135-140 MPH per
> SVT.  Mine has seen 125+ MPH on the track before running out of
> straightaway.  That's with 170 HP at the engine and around 145-150 HP
> on the ground.

Did test this only twice and got about 132mph according to GPS
out of my 2l Zetec, or 7mph more then the registration says. The
SVT should do of course better. You need an halfway empty and dry
highway, then you can watch the fuel gauge fall.;( One has to
keep much care, others just don't expect a Focus this fast,
presumingly because the 2l engine is sold quite rare over here.

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me/2 - 12 Oct 2005 07:15 GMT
:>In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>:
:>> me/2
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:>keep much care, others just don't expect a Focus this fast,
:>presumingly because the 2l engine is sold quite rare over here.

It's just the opposite on this side of the pond.  Every US Focus has
had either the 2.0 SPI, 2.0 Zetec, 2.0 Duratec or 2.3 Duratec.

As for top speed, as I noted in another message, the SVTF is
aerodynamically speed limited to around 135-140 MPH in factory stock
form.  This info is from SVT.  I'm sure they're a bit conservative in
their numbers.  I suspect that under the right conditions it wouldn't
be too difficult to peg the 160 MPH speedo.  I know of modified SVTFs
that have done it easily.

me/2
Vic Dura - 12 Oct 2005 08:00 GMT
Speed:

>It's just the opposite on this side of the pond.  Every US Focus has
>had either the 2.0 SPI, 2.0 Zetec, 2.0 Duratec or 2.3 Duratec.

How can one determine which engine is in the '05 ST/ZX4  with 5spd
transmission?
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me/2 - 12 Oct 2005 15:55 GMT
:>Speed:
:>
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:>How can one determine which engine is in the '05 ST/ZX4  with 5spd
:>transmission?

The US '05s have either the 2.0 Duratec or the 2.3 Duratec.  As for
the ZX4 ST model it comes with the 2.3 Duratec at something like
150-155 HP.  This is the only "perfromance" model of Focus for "05 in
the US.

Hope that helps.

me/2
Vic Dura - 12 Oct 2005 17:06 GMT
Speed:

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>
>Hope that helps.

Yes it does, very much. Thanks for the info.

FWIW,  I bought this car in January and have about 8k miles on it. So
far, I've really enjoyed it. Previously I had a '97 Escort 4-door LX
5spd which I bought new and had about 160k miles on it when I sold it.
That Escort was the most trouble-free car I've ever owned. I'm hoping
for the same from this Focus.
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John R Cambron - 14 Oct 2005 14:51 GMT
> Speed:
>
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> far, I've really enjoyed it. Previously I had a '97 Escort 4-door LX
> 5spd which I bought new and had about 160k miles on it when I sold it.

I wish I had been the person that purchased it from you.

> That Escort was the most trouble-free car I've ever owned.

I had the wagon version with the 5 speed and the above is the exact
experience I had with the car. I put over 200,000 miles before I
totaled it.

> I'm hoping for the same from this Focus.

My 2003 ZX3 is not as quite as the Focus was with the AC/heater
fan on the highest setting. The only problem I have had is the
when throttle body get dirty the engine stalls when not under
load.

238,000 plus miles and still as strong as the day I drove it off
the dealer lot.

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Vic Dura - 14 Oct 2005 17:18 GMT
>My 2003 ZX3 is not as quite as the Focus was with the AC/heater
>fan on the highest setting. The only problem I have had is the
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>238,000 plus miles and still as strong as the day I drove it off
>the dealer lot.

Wow! 238k miles in two years! Man that's a lot of driving.
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John R Cambron - 15 Oct 2005 18:51 GMT
> >My 2003 ZX3 is not as quite as the Focus was with the AC/heater
> >fan on the highest setting. The only problem I have had is the
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> Wow! 238k miles in two years! Man that's a lot of driving.

More like two and a half years. purchased the car on 04 12 2003

Contract courier. I drive 350 plus miles round trip weekdays
between Snow Hill on the lower easter shore of Maryland and
Baltimore. I haul mail for a major mid atlantic bank westbound
and deliver transmission parts eastbound on the way back as
well as other stuff along the way.

When the clock reaches 250,000 I will take a picture and post
it to the web.

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Don McC - 12 Oct 2005 21:34 GMT
"Vic Dura" <vpdura@CLUTTERhiwaay.net> pondered:

> How can one determine which engine is in the '05 ST/ZX4
> with 5spd transmission?

The engine type is encoded in the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN).
http://www.ofoc.ca/garage/vin.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-ford-vin-codes

https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/vin_tools/default.asp

Europe
http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/vindecoder.html

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Don
Vic Dura - 13 Oct 2005 00:43 GMT
>"Vic Dura" <vpdura@CLUTTERhiwaay.net> pondered:
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>Europe
> http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/vindecoder.html

Thank you very much. I never knew all the information was coded in the
VIN.
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Michael Heiming - 12 Oct 2005 22:20 GMT
In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>:
> :>In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>:
> :>> me/2
> :>
> :>> :>"EZM" <zuniga1984@hotmail.com> wrote in message
[..]

> :>presumingly because the 2l engine is sold quite rare over here.

> It's just the opposite on this side of the pond.  Every US Focus has
> had either the 2.0 SPI, 2.0 Zetec, 2.0 Duratec or 2.3 Duratec.

IIRC the most commonly Focus engine is 1.6l over here and there
are even quite a few 1.4l on the road. They might be a bit
cheaper (insurance + taxes), but IMHO it doesn't pay off, you
need to kick the smaller engines harder to get away. 2l seems to
be a good choice for the Focus, no need to tease the machine.

[..]

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John R Cambron - 14 Oct 2005 15:00 GMT
> :>In alt.autos.ford.focus me/2 <null@127.0.0.1>:
> :>> me/2
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> be too difficult to peg the 160 MPH speedo.  I know of modified SVTFs
> that have done it easily.

The question I have for everybody here. Has any one ever put
their Focus on a chassis dynamometer to see what it really can
do?

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Michael Heiming - 14 Oct 2005 18:34 GMT
In alt.autos.ford.focus John R Cambron <*cambronj@chesapeake.net*>:

[ Focus top speed ]

> The question I have for everybody here. Has any one ever put
> their Focus on a chassis dynamometer to see what it really can
> do?

Not the Focus, some Escort wagon I had long ago, it was just in
the specs, iirc about 5-10% less hp on the wheels then the
registration says. That's what one should expect for DIN hp,
which aren't measured at the wheels.

Anyway, a real world test using GPS which has +/- 0.1%
inaccuracy, seems much easier/cheaper (if you have GPS anyway).
You just need some highway dry and empty enough.

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me/2 - 15 Oct 2005 19:21 GMT
:>me/2 wrote:
:>>
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:>their Focus on a chassis dynamometer to see what it really can
:>do?

I did earlier this year.  I don't have the dyno sheet printout handy
but I remember that peak HP was around 160 and peak TQ was somewhere
in the 140's.  This is on a SVTF with the ONLY "performance" mods
being a FocusSport Cool-Flo intake, a FocusCentral 65mm throttle body,
and a SCT XCalibrator 2 tuned by Randy at FocusSport.

The spec sheet on the SVTF shows 170 HP and 145 TQ max at the flywheel
so those numbers above for HP and TQ at the wheels isn't too bad.  :-)

me/2
Mike Hunter - 11 Oct 2005 19:57 GMT
The top speed by law is limit at a ratio set by the rating of the tires on
the vehicle when it was new.  Those that are not governed by the limiter
must have a least 'Z' rated tires.

mike hunt

> :>If you have a Focus your top speed is nowhere close to 140 assuming we
> are
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> :>> how do i get my car to go faster then 110
> :>> if my car top speed is 140
me/2 - 12 Oct 2005 07:06 GMT
:>> :>If you have a Focus your top speed is nowhere close to 140 assuming we
:>> are
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
:>> :>> how do i get my car to go faster then 110
:>> :>> if my car top speed is 140

:>The top speed by law is limit at a ratio set by the rating of the tires on
:>the vehicle when it was new.  Those that are not governed by the limiter
:>must have a least 'Z' rated tires.
:>
:>mike hunt

The Contis that come on the SVTF are rated "W" under the current
rating system which indicates a speed of 168 MPH.  This is per the
owner's manual in my SVTF  I've been told by a reliable source at SVT
that the SVTF in stock form is limited to around 135-140 due to the
aerodynamics.  To max out the 160 MPH speedo requres some mods, a
tailwind or a good downhill run.  :-)

I've got the mods, now I just need a track with a very long
straightaway.  :-)

me/2
 
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