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theclyde - 01 Aug 2006 15:14 GMT I just bought a 2006 Ford Focus ZXW SE to replace my againg and soon to be retired '98 Escort Wagon. All in all I am pretty pleased with the Focus Wagon. It is a much taller vehicle and it takes a bit of getting used to not having that sports car feeling, but I am getting used to the SUV feel.
I have noticed though that the dash seems to be reflected up into the window - especially the rounded section above the instrument panel. While in most cases (so far) this has been little more than an annoyance I would definately like to have a reflection free view of the road. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove/diminish this glare? (it is a pueblo gold car with the stipply plastic dash if that makes a difference)
Also, under the HVAC controls there is a little holder area. Really, it is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does anybody have any idea what this area is for?
Patrick Bennington - 01 Aug 2006 15:44 GMT I have an '06 ZX3. I know about the glare you refer to, but don't really know if there's anything you can do. That little storage area? Worthless.
>I just bought a 2006 Ford Focus ZXW SE to replace my againg and soon to > be retired '98 Escort Wagon. All in all I am pretty pleased with the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does > anybody have any idea what this area is for? Rob B - 01 Aug 2006 18:20 GMT about 90% of the time the little storage area is used for an optional accessory... my old honda had it (we used it as a cell phone storage) but it was actually intended for a LCD touchpad Graphic Equalizer.. on some cars the storage area is used as a filler the bezel would be replaced with one that has a cutout of the storage and the radio for a display for a touchscreen interface or an accessory that would need to use the spot.. the dealers use the area not used for storage in the futal attempt to make more storage areas that are almost useless
>I just bought a 2006 Ford Focus ZXW SE to replace my againg and soon to > be retired '98 Escort Wagon. All in all I am pretty pleased with the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does > anybody have any idea what this area is for? theclyde - 01 Aug 2006 18:42 GMT Yeah, there is some wierd thinking going on behind the scenes for some interior design choices. The area is really too shallow for to be usefull to me - anything I could think of would just fall right out.
The car is back at the dealer right now getting the rust inhbitor installed and some special coating applied. I think I might ask them about solutions to the glare when I pick it up.
> about 90% of the time the little storage area is used for an optional > accessory... my old honda had it (we used it as a cell phone storage) but it [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does > > anybody have any idea what this area is for? Rob B - 01 Aug 2006 19:06 GMT one of my cars had a glare so bad that I had the windsheld replaced with one with a anti glare coating on the inside and out it cost alot more but it was worth it there may be treatments or a coating you can put on it but I rather not attempt to put an antiglare coating myself because most tint/antiglare peel and sticks don;t last long and being in direct sun would pretty much melt it and bubble it thats why I went with a windshield with one put on by its manufacturer
> Yeah, there is some wierd thinking going on behind the scenes for some > interior design choices. The area is really too shallow for to be [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does >> > anybody have any idea what this area is for? Vic Dura - 01 Aug 2006 20:59 GMT > Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove/diminish this >glare? How about polarized lens sunglasses? That might help. It would be a cheap fix. Plus it would make you look cool.
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Craig Bennett - 01 Aug 2006 23:40 GMT >> Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove/diminish this >>glare? > >How about polarized lens sunglasses? That might help. It would be a >cheap fix. Plus it would make you look cool. Polarized would fix the issue? I might have to try that. Although, they would probably be more expensive than my $1 sunglasses I currently use.
I talked with the people at the dealership. They said some people lay down a matte cloth (dark felt they said as an example).
Maybe next paycheck I will try both.
Okidiver - 02 Aug 2006 01:59 GMT Polarized sunglasses (at least the 4 I've tried) won't make the glare go away. If anybody has a better solution other than the dealers taking guesses (laying dark felt down, sigh, you'd think they could come up with something better than that...) please pass it on. I looked for those pre-cut carpet things (Dash-mat?) when I got my ZTW back in 03, but they didn't make them for that football field we refer to as the top of the dash.
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>>> Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove/diminish this >>>glare? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Maybe next paycheck I will try both. Vic Dura - 02 Aug 2006 14:01 GMT Are you an "Oki"? From Norman perhaps?
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Okidiver - 03 Aug 2006 03:33 GMT Naw, actually it's for OkiNAWA, but I did live in Midwest City for 3 years back in the 80s. Got a good friend still living back there... and maybe a couple unknown children...;-)
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> Are you an "Oki"? From Norman perhaps? Mike Hunter - 02 Aug 2006 16:38 GMT Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. Drive the car a while and you will not notice the reflection, I'll bet. As to the little storage bin, if is for small stuff that serves no useful purpose. LOL
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>I just bought a 2006 Ford Focus ZXW SE to replace my againg and soon to > be retired '98 Escort Wagon. All in all I am pretty pleased with the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can think of. Does > anybody have any idea what this area is for? Chris Whelan - 02 Aug 2006 16:42 GMT > Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. > Drive [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > mike hunt How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the screen reflections still annoy me... :-)
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Rob B - 02 Aug 2006 17:20 GMT LOL my resolution was replace the windsheild with one that had a anti glare treatment on it
>> Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. >> Drive [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Chris Craig Bennett - 02 Aug 2006 17:44 GMT >>> Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. >>> Drive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the screen >> reflections still annoy me... :-) I have now emailed Ford to see what they have to suggest.
Actually, the reflection of the dash itself is not too bad. It is the lines around the passenger airbag and the lines around the raised section of the instrument panel that cause my grief.
Craig Bennett - 04 Aug 2006 03:55 GMT >I have now emailed Ford to see what they have to suggest. Well, I recieved a form-type letter back from ford.ca saying that they are a customer serviec center and cannot answer question about how to reduce the glare. They told me to contact my dealer, which I already had done with no good results. Very dissapointing. I guess I will have to go back to the dealer and ask them again.
Thibaud Taudin Chabot - 04 Aug 2006 10:29 GMT or you can to a number of other Ford dealers if you don't like the reply of your own Ford dealer. Ford is always avoiding a direct customer contact, everything has to go through their dealers. I think it is a company wide policy. Thibaud Chabot
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>> I have now emailed Ford to see what they have to suggest. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > had done with no good results. Very dissapointing. I guess I will > have to go back to the dealer and ask them again. Mike Hunter - 02 Aug 2006 20:49 GMT I guess some folks find it harder to adjust to things then others. ;)
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>> Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. >> Drive [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Chris Mike Hunter - 29 Aug 2006 17:08 GMT Sounds like you may have cataracts LOL
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>> Not uncommon to notice things like that when one buys a new vehicle. >> Drive [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Chris Craig Bennett - 03 Sep 2006 14:31 GMT >> How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the screen >> reflections still annoy me... :-)
>Sounds like you may have cataracts LOL Or there is a problem with windshields sloped at that type of angle. The reflection is still bothering me. To the point where I will be looking at a different style of car (one with a less angled windshield) in 4-5 years when I replace the new focus.
D - 03 Sep 2006 17:39 GMT > Or there is a problem with windshields sloped at that type of angle. > The reflection is still bothering me. To the point where I will be > looking at a different style of car (one with a less angled > windshield) in 4-5 years when I replace the new focus. Try polarised (sun)glasses - should cut out all the reflections.
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Craig Bennett - 03 Sep 2006 18:22 GMT >> Or there is a problem with windshields sloped at that type of angle. >> The reflection is still bothering me. To the point where I will be >> looking at a different style of car (one with a less angled >> windshield) in 4-5 years when I replace the new focus. > >Try polarised (sun)glasses - should cut out all the reflections. That has been suggested and shot down a couple times, and not a real solution as the reflections of the dash into the windshield happen in all sorts of light, including light where sunglasses would be more of a safety issue than a help.
If the top of the dash did not have dark lines in it (between the sloped portion of the dash and the raised rounded area over the instrument console, and around the passenger airboag panel) or was made of a less reflective material (the curved raised part of the dash does not show up in the windshiled, just the textured sloped top of the dash) there would be no issues.
D - 03 Sep 2006 21:56 GMT >> Try polarised (sun)glasses - should cut out all the reflections. > > That has been suggested and shot down a couple times, and not a real > solution as the reflections of the dash into the windshield happen in > all sorts of light, including light where sunglasses would be more of > a safety issue than a help. Ok, hadn't been following the thread earlier. The only time I notice the reflections on mine are in bright direct sunlight when I've forgotten my sunglasses. When wearing polarised sunglasses I don't see any reflections.
As an aside, what difference does height in the seat make. I'm 6'2" (1m87 for our metric friends) and like I say never really notice this problem. Have you tried adjusting seat height?
Biggest problem I have is with the quickclear windscreen at night which produces more glare from on-coming headlights than with windscreens without this feature.
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Craig Bennett - 03 Sep 2006 22:35 GMT >Ok, hadn't been following the thread earlier. The only time I notice the >reflections on mine are in bright direct sunlight when I've forgotten my >sunglasses. When wearing polarised sunglasses I don't see any reflections. it is definately worse in the bright sun, but it is there all the time when there is light for me. I have a Pueblo Gold vehicle (and I guess the same interior) - don't know if that makes too much a difference.
>As an aside, what difference does height in the seat make. I'm 6'2" >(1m87 for our metric friends) and like I say never really notice this >problem. Have you tried adjusting seat height? 5'11, seat raised almost as high as it gets, and back as far as it gets. I could try adjusting the height and seeing if it makes too much a difference, but even if it does then it leads to a problem of I like the seat how it is. Heh, on a different note - it is so different than my old 98 Escort wagon - that car was so low to the ground it was crazy. No reflections on the windshield.. but it was a different angle and a smooth darker dash.
>Biggest problem I have is with the quickclear windscreen at night which >produces more glare from on-coming headlights than with windscreens >without this feature. Quickclear?
I have not noticed any glare from oncoming vehicles at night. Though I have not driven the new car at night too too much. Winter is coming fast though so within a month or so I will be driving to work in the darkness and home in the darkness (or at least much darker) so my problem may go away till spring.
D - 04 Sep 2006 20:53 GMT >> Biggest problem I have is with the quickclear windscreen at night which >> produces more glare from on-coming headlights than with windscreens >> without this feature. > > Quickclear? Heated front windscreen - very thin zig-zag wires vertically placed ~5-10mm apart.
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Craig Bennett - 04 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT >>> Biggest problem I have is with the quickclear windscreen at night which >>> produces more glare from on-coming headlights than with windscreens [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Heated front windscreen - very thin zig-zag wires vertically placed >~5-10mm apart. Sweet. I always wondered why those were only available on the read window. It would be a definate benefit in the winter over here. Sometimes I think I spend more time scraping the windows in the winter then I do driving :)
D - 04 Sep 2006 21:36 GMT >> Heated front windscreen - very thin zig-zag wires vertically placed >> ~5-10mm apart. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Sometimes I think I spend more time scraping the windows in the winter > then I do driving :) Aye, it's pretty handy here in the Alps in the winter as well. Switch engine on, front and rear screen (and mirror) heaters on, scrape side windows and off you go in 2 minutes flat.
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Thibaud Taudin Chabot - 05 Sep 2006 08:30 GMT D schreef:
>>> Heated front windscreen - very thin zig-zag wires vertically placed >>> ~5-10mm apart. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > D. My winter frost routine is exactly the same. But be careful: check the wiper on the passengerside. The tip of this wiper is over a part of the windscreen which is not heated. Once I did not notice and using the wipers to remove the melted ice from the windscreen tore of a bit from the wiperblade because it was still frozen to the windshield. Thibaud
Blinky the Shark - 05 Sep 2006 04:03 GMT >>>> Biggest problem I have is with the quickclear windscreen at night which >>>> produces more glare from on-coming headlights than with windscreens [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Sometimes I think I spend more time scraping the windows in the winter > then I do driving :) I finally got *that* part of winter driving solved, and I don't miss it at all. :)
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Blinky the Shark - 03 Sep 2006 19:25 GMT >>> How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the >>> screen reflections still annoy me... :-) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > looking at a different style of car (one with a less angled > windshield) in 4-5 years when I replace the new focus. Thanks to you guys, the other day in my '03 I saw the reflections you've been talking about. :) For several seconds, while I was paying attention to them. Then they disappeared again, because I went back to looking at what was outside the car.
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Craig Bennett - 03 Sep 2006 21:48 GMT >>>> How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the >>>> screen reflections still annoy me... :-) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >attention to them. Then they disappeared again, because I went back to >looking at what was outside the car. You are one lucky camper then. Sometimes I have to shift my head a few inches to the side to see around the reflected lines in order to read street signs.
Blinky the Shark - 03 Sep 2006 23:27 GMT >>>>> How long might that take? I've had my Focus seven years and the >>>>> screen reflections still annoy me... :-) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > few inches to the side to see around the reflected lines in order to > read street signs. Since I see driver height and interior color is now being discussed, I'll add that I'm 6'0" and my car's interior is grey. And I never wear sun glasses; I don't even own a pair. And I live in sunny Southern California, USA -- in a valley that set its all time high temperature record in late June with 119F/48C; "full sun" is no problem here. ;)
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Craig Bennett - 04 Sep 2006 04:00 GMT >>>> Or there is a problem with windshields sloped at that type of angle. >>>> The reflection is still bothering me. To the point where I will be [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >California, USA -- in a valley that set its all time high temperature >record in late June with 119F/48C; "full sun" is no problem here. ;) I found some matte black fabric hanging around the house. Actually, it is garden weed barrier. Tried laying it over the dash... no more reflection in the windshield at all anymore. Now I just have to find some way to 1) make it look nice. It will take a lot of cutting, and possibly some glueing of edges to make hems 2) attach it semi-perminantly - it will have to be removable for to be washed and when I sell the car. There are little grooves along the dash (closest to the window right where the black window defog vent area starts) and another at the start of the passenger side 3) make it safe - it will be covering the passenger airbag and both dashtop vent holes.
Still - kind of dissapointing to have to disfigure a brand new vehicle. Colour and texture does seem to be a real matter as far as the reflection.
Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers more usable at low speeds.
Blinky the Shark - 04 Sep 2006 05:32 GMT >>>>> Or there is a problem with windshields sloped at that type of >>>>> angle. The reflection is still bothering me. To the point where [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > is garden weed barrier. Tried laying it over the dash... no more > reflection in the windshield at all anymore. Now I just have to find Cool beans, Craig.
> some way to 1) make it look nice. It will take a lot of cutting, and > possibly some glueing of edges to make hems 2) attach it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > another at the start of the passenger side 3) make it safe - it will > be covering the passenger airbag and both dashtop vent holes. Consider taking the project to a car upholstery shop. They'll have the material, the tools and the experience and skills to make something nice. Based on the shop I used for redoing the interior of my Triumph (my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you could have something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as necessary).
> Still - kind of dissapointing to have to disfigure a brand new > vehicle. Colour and texture does seem to be a real matter as far as > the reflection. ...and I'd think it wouldn't as disfiguring as something you slapped together.
> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers > more usable at low speeds. Oh, great -- now you're probably going to tell me what's wrong with my wipers, too... ;)
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Craig Bennett - 04 Sep 2006 13:04 GMT >Consider taking the project to a car upholstery shop. They'll have the >material, the tools and the experience and skills to make something >nice. Based on the shop I used for redoing the interior of my Triumph >(my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you could have >something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as necessary). I hope that US$100 was a misprint. Wow.. Definately not worth that much to me unless Ford was footing the bill.
>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >> more usable at low speeds. > >Oh, great -- now you're probably going to tell me what's wrong with my >wipers, too... ;) Hehe. it is odd.. the way the wipers go it seems the passenger wiper is a couple inches higher than the driver wiper. This leaves a small verical line of water that drips down on the drivers side unless I am driving fairly fast. Also, seems that if I am driving slow, I also get a small stream of water coming up the windshield off the left of the driver wiper. No problems with the passenger wiper design.
I had 0 issues major, minor or otherwise with my Escort wagon. Everything seemed to be so well thought out, in its right place and working just so perfectly designed. I think this is why I am finding myself a bit irritated with the multitude of minor problems I am finding in the Focus wagon,
Blinky the Shark - 05 Sep 2006 04:02 GMT >>Consider taking the project to a car upholstery shop. They'll have >>the material, the tools and the experience and skills to make [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I hope that US$100 was a misprint. Wow.. Definately not worth that > much to me unless Ford was footing the bill. Not a typo. The $15 ewas the typo -- I meant $150. I thought you wanted something nice for your shiny new car. That's not much for a custom fit. :)
>>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >>> more usable at low speeds. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hehe. it is odd.. the way the wipers go it seems the passenger > wiper is a couple inches higher than the driver wiper. This leaves a That beats them dueling for space and ending up all bent up. :)
> small verical line of water that drips down on the drivers side unless > I am driving fairly fast. Also, seems that if I am driving slow, I > also get a small stream of water coming up the windshield off the left > of the driver wiper. No problems with the passenger wiper design. Never noticed these things. If I press the squirt button (with the wipers not running), the wipers make a few passes after the the spray has stopped, then they too stop. Then, several seconds later, they make one more pass, to dispose of the little rivulet that runs down from the top of the area area where the two patterns overlap. Perhaps I'm easily entertained, but I think that's really hip. :)
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Craig Bennett - 05 Sep 2006 12:42 GMT >>>my Triumph (my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you >>>could have something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >wanted something nice for your shiny new car. That's not much for a >custom fit. :) Not much for a custom fit, I suppose. But I am not aiming fior something nice for the shiny new car, I am aiming for no reflections. If I had known how bad it would have been, I would have had the dealer give me the $200 discount so I could get this done.
>>>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >>>> more usable at low speeds. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >That beats them dueling for space and ending up all bent up. :) True, but I did not have this problem witht he Escort wagon. I remember the wipers being different sizes, but never saw a problem with the trickle down the drivers side. Or up the drivers side
>> small verical line of water that drips down on the drivers side unless >> I am driving fairly fast. Also, seems that if I am driving slow, I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >top of the area area where the two patterns overlap. Perhaps I'm easily >entertained, but I think that's really hip. :) For sure - I love that second pass. It still impresses me. But I usually end up giving it a third pass and sometimes a forth pass in order to clear the viewing area.
I do notice the passenger wiper seems to be about 1cm longer than the window. Do not know why.. think I will try replacing it with a blade size or two shorter and the drivers side with a larger blade and see if this will give me any results. Well - when it is time to replace the blades I will try this. It may be a while.
Blinky the Shark - 05 Sep 2006 20:27 GMT >>>>my Triumph (my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you >>>>could have something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Not much for a custom fit, I suppose. But I am not aiming fior > something nice for the shiny new car, I am aiming for no reflections. Sure, but no reflections even at the cost of ugliness? I thought you also wanted it to look nice.
> If I had known how bad it would have been, I would have had the dealer > give me the $200 discount so I could get this done. What $200 discount is that?
>>>>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >>>>> more usable at low speeds. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > remember the wipers being different sizes, but never saw a problem > with the trickle down the drivers side. Or up the drivers side I don't know about either of those. I tend not to pay attention to the surface outside the wiped zones. Is that where it's happening?
Incidentally, have you ever used RainX? Not that it's relevant to your issues; I just wondered.
>>> small verical line of water that drips down on the drivers side unless >>> I am driving fairly fast. Also, seems that if I am driving slow, I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I do notice the passenger wiper seems to be about 1cm longer than the > window. Do not know why.. think I will try replacing it with a blade Wait. The passenger-side wiper goes off the windshield because it's too long?
> size or two shorter and the drivers side with a larger blade and see > if this will give me any results. Well - when it is time to replace > the blades I will try this. It may be a while.
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Craig Bennett - 05 Sep 2006 22:32 GMT >>>>>my Triumph (my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you >>>>>could have something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >What $200 discount is that? The discount to get the problem fixed :)
>>>>>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >>>>>> more usable at low speeds. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I don't know about either of those. I tend not to pay attention to the >surface outside the wiped zones. Is that where it's happening? No. Well, the problem starts there. Then it trickles down in front of the drivers side for about 3 extra manual swoops of the blades. Unless I am doing more than 40km/h in which case it trickles up and is not a problem. But at that point I also get a trickle up from the left side of the driver side wiper. Heh, I just cannot win!
>Incidentally, have you ever used RainX? Not that it's relevant to your >issues; I just wondered. Nope. Never even heard of it.
>>>> small verical line of water that drips down on the drivers side unless >>>> I am driving fairly fast. Also, seems that if I am driving slow, I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Wait. The passenger-side wiper goes off the windshield because it's too >long? Yeah. At first I thought maybe they (dealer/ford) got the blades on the wrong sides, but no - the passenger blade is shorter than the driver blade. It has a longer arm holding it up though. Maybe they got the arms on backwards?
>> size or two shorter and the drivers side with a larger blade and see >> if this will give me any results. Well - when it is time to replace >> the blades I will try this. It may be a while. Blinky the Shark - 06 Sep 2006 05:43 GMT >>>>>>my Triumph (my daily driver before I got the Focus), I'd think you >>>>>>could have something nice custom made for maybe US$100-$15 (convert as [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > The discount to get the problem fixed :) Oh, *that* one. :)
>>>>>>> Next project to tackle will be trying to make the windshield wipers >>>>>>> more usable at low speeds. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > not a problem. But at that point I also get a trickle up from the > left side of the driver side wiper. Heh, I just cannot win! Ah! I never drive less than 40km/hr. (Don't aske me how I get in and out of the car. <g>)
>>Incidentally, have you ever used RainX? Not that it's relevant to your >>issues; I just wondered. > > Nope. Never even heard of it. USan product; didn't remember where you were (until I just read your use of kilometers). It's pretty...er...slick, no pun intended. You probably have access to something like it.
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Re that author's enthusiasm about night vision, I happened to have a chance to test that same thing shortly after I first used Rain-X. I was in heavy traffic that slowed the freeway down to about 60km/hr, in a downpour at night. I turned off the wipers and found the view to be surprising; even at that low speed, where I wasn't clearing the glass with a hurricane-like stream of air, I could drive perfectly safely; my vision was amazingly clear.
Perhaps that's why I don't have the trickle-down issues you do...even at low speed, perhaps the water's ending up where it's not available for dribbling down the glass in front of you.
If you have an equivalent, there, it's worth a shot at US$3 - convert as needed - a bottle. I did all of my glass with it, and probably have half the bottle left.
>>Wait. The passenger-side wiper goes off the windshield because it's too >>long? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > driver blade. It has a longer arm holding it up though. Maybe they > got the arms on backwards? Mine uses 22"/560mm driver's side and 19"/475mm passenger's side.
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Craig Bennett - 06 Sep 2006 21:39 GMT >>>Incidentally, have you ever used RainX? Not that it's relevant to your >>>issues; I just wondered. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >needed - a bottle. I did all of my glass with it, and probably have >half the bottle left. I will have to check the local stores.. I am sure there is a variety of equivilants lining the shelves of the Canadian Tire.
Blinky the Shark - 07 Sep 2006 02:10 GMT >Blinky wrote, but the attribution is missing:
>>Re that author's enthusiasm about night vision, I happened to have a >>chance to test that same thing shortly after I first used Rain-X. I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I will have to check the local stores.. I am sure there is a variety > of equivilants lining the shelves of the Canadian Tire. I wouldn't be surprised to find Rain-X itself there; but yes, certainly there should be an equivalent.
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tpmaybury@gmail.com - 09 Sep 2006 01:19 GMT > >>>Incidentally, have you ever used RainX? Not that it's relevant to your > >>>issues; I just wondered. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > I will have to check the local stores.. I am sure there is a variety > of equivilants lining the shelves of the Canadian Tire. Canadian Tire should carry Rain-X (at least, it does in Ontario), as well as a bunch of similar liquids. I tend to go with the easiest route (I call it 'most efficient'), so I generally use the washer fluid with Rain-X in it - it is also good down to -45C, so I use the same stuff year round. This year I am thinking of keeping a spray bottle of it in the house by the door to speed the defrost cyle (my wife gets very annoyed at my requirement for all windows being completely clear before driving off - especially when *I* am late). I have noticed the reflections in the windshield, and having just cleaned the interior, notice that it tends to be worse when there is any dust or grime on the inside surface. Regular cleaning of the window and dash should help. If you like using Armor All, use the 'Low Shine' version (and keep it off the steering wheel!).
I have applied Rain-X on a previous vehicle, and the washer fluid provides satisfactory results, if not quite as good as the separately applied liquid. CT also has washer fluid with Teflon, purported to help the water bead off the windscreen.
BTW - I love not having to fill a separate washer fluid reservoir for the rear window!
Paul
Craig Bennett - 09 Sep 2006 03:57 GMT >the house by the door to speed the defrost cyle (my wife gets very >annoyed at my requirement for all windows being completely clear before >driving off - especially when *I* am late). I have noticed the I am glad I am not the only one who takes the time to clear all the windows before I start driving.
>you like using Armor All, use the 'Low Shine' version (and keep it off >the steering wheel!). I used armor all on the last car as the dash was a lot more smoother - sort of leather like. This one is stipled plastic looking so it is just cleaned and not shined. I hear the steering wheel coment. Accidently did that one once.
>BTW - I love not having to fill a separate washer fluid reservoir for >the rear window! Oh my - just ran out the other day and indeed - was very very pleased with that.
Shelle - 03 Aug 2006 12:36 GMT I've found there's nothing I can't fling out of the worthless little storage area by taking an easy left or right turn.
I have a 2006 ZX4 and I am thinking that if I get the AUX harness for my iPod, maybe I can have it snaked through the back of there and geri-rig a "lip" for it to hold it in place.
> I just bought a 2006 Ford Focus ZXW SE to replace my againg and > soon to be retired '98 Escort Wagon. All in all I am pretty [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Really, it is too small for to serve any useful purpose that I can > think of. Does anybody have any idea what this area is for? Mike Hunter - 03 Aug 2006 18:29 GMT Double stick tape will work
mike
> I've found there's nothing I can't fling out of the worthless little > storage area by taking an easy left or right turn. > > I have a 2006 ZX4 and I am thinking that if I get the AUX harness for > my iPod, maybe I can have it snaked through the back of there and > geri-rig a "lip" for it to hold it in place. Shelle - 10 Aug 2006 03:51 GMT > "Shelle" <shesintobluesbutnotspam@comcast.net> wrote... >> I've found there's nothing I can't fling out of the worthless [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Double stick tape will work Hah... Not sure that's the answer but I like the way you think. :)
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