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Can the pats system be removed from my car so I can just use a normal key? Or is it tied into the cars main ecu? > Can the pats system be removed from my car so I can just use a normal key? > Or is it tied into the cars main ecu? Not likely and almost certainly. What good would be a security scheme that was so easily removed?? >> Can the pats system be removed from my car so I can just use a normal key? >> Or is it tied into the cars main ecu? > >Not likely and almost certainly. > >What good would be a security scheme that was so easily removed?? As show on a UK TV program recently - the thieves bring along their own ECU with matching key. It only takes a few seconds to swap the ECU in order to steal the car.  SignatureAlan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com > >> Can the pats system be removed from my car so I can just use a normal key? > >> Or is it tied into the cars main ecu? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ECU with matching key. It only takes a few seconds to swap the ECU in > order to steal the car. You will find that on all recent fords, and alot of other recent cars, the ECU multiplug has a metal shield over it wihich is rivetted in place, and that the ECU has shear bolts which fasten it to the car also; so plugging in another ECU is next to impossible without afair bit of careful drilling / wrestling. Tim. . I never asked if it could "easily" be removed , just if it could be done. But thanks anyway. I think I will try to tape my working key to the steering colum under the plastic near the ignition and try a regular no pats key. I belive I read somewhere as long as the pats key is within 7 to 10 inches of the ignition this might work. $100 for my dealer to program a new key for me is a joke seeing as it was them who sold me the car with only one key. >> Can the pats system be removed from my car so I can just use a normal >> key? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What good would be a security scheme that was so easily removed?? wrong... i have a pats key and a regular old key... the pats key starts the car but the regular one... even though its an inch from the pats wont start it. > I never asked if it could "easily" be removed , just if it could be done. > But thanks anyway. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > What good would be a security scheme that was so easily removed?? I tried the same thing and got the same results you did. On 2 Sep 2006 10:59:26 -0700, in alt.autos.ford.focus you wrote: >wrong... i have a pats key and a regular old key... the pats key starts >the car but the regular one... even though its an inch from the pats >wont start it. > I never asked if it could "easily" be removed , > just if it could be done. But thanks anyway. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this might work. $100 for my dealer to program a new key for me is a joke > seeing as it was them who sold me the car with only one key. The problem is with the ignition lock tumblers. You could remove the tumblers so that the ignition can be turned by hand. The car will start as long as a programmed PATS key is within a few inches. In fact, just insert the key into the lockless ignition. That will work. Qualified locksmiths can fix the worn tumblers and program a new key for much less than a dealer. -- Don I take it u only have 1 key left first of all. If that's the route you are going to take then I would remove the antenna from around the barrel and just tape your key inside it in the steering column cowlings. REMEMBERING your insurance company should be notified if this as u are disabling the security system on your car ;) HTH MC >I never asked if it could "easily" be removed , just if it could be done. > But thanks anyway. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> What good would be a security scheme that was so easily removed?? |
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