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Car Forum / Ford / Ford Focus / September 2006tdci - overtaking is scary ?
I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me ) Tdci Focus.. Yesterday I left it in 4th gear at 35 MPH and it was a struggle to get passed the car in front, so today I dropped it from 5th to 3rd at about 45 MPH which was even worse.. There is such little power above 3K RPM in 3rd ( or any gear ) that I just barely got past the car after having to change to 4th. The power output V RPM curve is certainly taking some getting used to.. From 2-3K RPM it goes like a rocket and I think I#m driving a fast car, however you have to remember it just stops at 3K ! It's nice while it lasts and nippy around town but scares the life out of me when overtaking ! Si >I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me >) Tdci Focus.. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >while it lasts and nippy around town but scares the life out of me when >overtaking ! This mirrors my experience when I first got my TDCi, being used to petrol engined cars. I've now more or less got the hang of it, but it's back to petrol for me next time, without a doubt. I'd rather have (slightly) higher fuel bills and no medical bills.  SignatureAll the best David Millen Xativa, Valencia www.fincacasablanca.com please reply in group if you have to email me, remove the obvious: davidtheobvious@millen.com >> The power output V RPM curve is certainly taking some getting >> used to.. From 2-3K RPM it goes like a rocket and I think I#m [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but it's back to petrol for me next time, without a doubt. I'd > rather have (slightly) higher fuel bills and no medical bills. Which particular engine have you got? My 1750 100hp unit revs to the red line without hesitation or loosing any grunt! Gotta love those Italian tune-ups! SignatureChris Game "You must be an intellectual. No normal person would say a thing like that." -- George Orwell > >> The power output V RPM curve is certainly taking some getting > >> used to.. From 2-3K RPM it goes like a rocket and I think I#m [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Gotta love those Italian tune-ups! I'll take that as a suggestion.. :) I've done some serious speed in 5th gear, but it does not seem to get the revs into 'italian tune up' teritory.. 70MPH= 2000rpm !! > > >> The power output V RPM curve is certainly taking some getting > > >> used to.. From 2-3K RPM it goes like a rocket and I think I#m [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I've done some serious speed in 5th gear, but it does not seem to get > the revs into 'italian tune up' teritory.. 70MPH= 2000rpm !! 'tune up' complete... I really think she seems a little less reluctant above 3000rpm now. My old Pugeot D gets thrashed all the time I use it so never has this problem cheers for suggestion. In alt.autos.ford.focus srp@lycos.co.uk: > I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new > ( to me) Tdci Focus.. > Yesterday I left it in 4th gear at 35 MPH and it was a > struggle to get passed the car in front, so today I dropped it > from 5th to 3rd at about 45 MPH which was even worse.. > There is such little power above 3K RPM in 3rd ( or any gear > ) that I just barely got past the car after having to change to > 4th. Seems you have to possibilities: a) Get used to driving a turbo diesel engine b) Sell it and get a car with fuel engine Good luck BTW Yep, I had both and no problems, though I prefer a petrol because engines just run more smooth. SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' > I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me > ) Tdci Focus.. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > while it lasts and nippy around town but scares the life out of me when > overtaking ! You have a serious problem. You dont say which engine you have, but if its the 1.6 (90), 1.6 (110), 1.8 (100), 1.8 (115) or 2.0 (136) then they should all come on boost at around 1700-1900rpm and pull vigourously until at least 3600rpm, and then with slightly less enthusiasm to the red line. Get back to your dealer, you car is ill. Tim.. > > I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me > > ) Tdci Focus.. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > 1700-1900rpm and pull vigourously until at least 3600rpm, and then with > slightly less enthusiasm to the red line. it's the 1.8 (115) Tdci, i'll have a closer look at the Rev. counter on the way home tonight.. maybe it does pull a bit higher than 3000rpm but the power drops off quite quickly. > > > I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me > > > ) Tdci Focus.. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > the way home tonight.. maybe it does pull a bit higher than 3000rpm but > the power drops off quite quickly. Same as mine then. Max power's (115ps) supposed to be at 3800rpm, so if yours is dying before then it could be a problem. I had major issues with mine a couple of months ago, which turned out to be a tiny kink in a tube somewhere, which was doing funny things to the pressure of the gas in the tube, and hence funny things to the turbo. Like, it wasn't working at all. Mine's now absolutely fine for overtaking - way better than petrol, just a pain in the butt for driving well on windy roads - I drove from Macclesfield to Buxton and back the other day (over the Pennines, Cat and Fiddle pass, UK), and it was really tedious - I shouldn't have to shift into 2nd gear on an open road!?! It just takes forever to get from 1200rpm to 1800rpm in anything other than 1st gear! Also really annoying that in 5th gear, at 60 or even 70mph, the turbo doesn't really kick in - have to wait til 75-80... yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP > > > > I'm having trouble getting overtaking traffic safely in my new ( to me > > > > ) Tdci Focus.. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > annoying that in 5th gear, at 60 or even 70mph, the turbo doesn't > really kick in - have to wait til 75-80... > yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. > with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP Yeah but then my weekly fuel bill would be way higher than £25 for 300 miles :-D Of course, if I was in the US where "gas" is cheaper than bottled water, I'd have had the 2 litre petrol any day :-P You lot moan about "gas" prices, you don't know you're born, hehehe! Currently ~$6.83/gallon for diesel here, $6.63 for unleaded (95 octane's the cheapest you can get here). 50mpg diesel vs 30mpg petrol over 15000 miles saves me $1,266 a year... i have a 3sgte turbo 2.0l 4 cylinder in my yota, and a 2.0l N/A zetec in my focus... the celica is faster and has better gas mileage. 25mpg focus. 35 celica. > > yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. > > with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > octane's the cheapest you can get here). 50mpg diesel vs 30mpg petrol > over 15000 miles saves me $1,266 a year... In alt.autos.ford.focus Stu <stuart.d.jones@gmail.com>: >> yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. >> with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP > Yeah but then my weekly fuel bill would be way higher than ?25 for 300 > miles :-D > Of course, if I was in the US where "gas" is cheaper than bottled > water, I'd have had the 2 litre petrol any day :-P LOL...Full ack! I have a 2l petrol. > You lot moan about "gas" prices, you don't know you're born, hehehe! > Currently ~$6.83/gallon for diesel here, $6.63 for unleaded (95 > octane's the cheapest you can get here). 50mpg diesel vs 30mpg petrol > over 15000 miles saves me $1,266 a year... Those are UK gallons? 1 gallon (US) == 3.785 l 1 gallon (UK) == 4.546 l We had been already up to 1.40 Euro/l (super - needed for 2l petrol engine) recently, though it is now about 1.25 Euro/l. 1.40 Euro/l = 6.8 US $ per gallon (US) 8.2 US $ per gallon (UK) Get around 8.5l/100km without A/C and a little care. 33 mpg (imperial) 28 mpg (US) SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' > In alt.autos.ford.focus Stu <stuart.d.jones@gmail.com>: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 1 gallon (US) == 3.785 l > 1 gallon (UK) == 4.546 l No, I did the US conversion :-) Prices based on £0.96/litre for Diesel, and £0.93/litre for Petrol. We've been over £1/litre for Diesel, and on £0.99/litre for Petrol a couple of times in the past 12 months (and boy did people get unhappy) That said, I did my MPG conversion in imperial... which actually means my 1.8 (115) TDCi saves me more like $1520 a year over my old car (2 litre petrol Laguna, also 115bhp) In alt.autos.ford.focus Stu <stuart.d.jones@gmail.com>: >> In alt.autos.ford.focus Stu <stuart.d.jones@gmail.com>: >> >> yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. >> >> with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP >> > Yeah but then my weekly fuel bill would be way higher than ?25 for 300 >> > miles :-D >> > Of course, if I was in the US where "gas" is cheaper than bottled >> > water, I'd have had the 2 litre petrol any day :-P >> LOL...Full ack! I have a 2l petrol. >> > You lot moan about "gas" prices, you don't know you're born, hehehe! >> > Currently ~$6.83/gallon for diesel here, $6.63 for unleaded (95 >> > octane's the cheapest you can get here). 50mpg diesel vs 30mpg petrol >> > over 15000 miles saves me $1,266 a year... >> Those are UK gallons? >> 1 gallon (US) == 3.785 l >> 1 gallon (UK) == 4.546 l > No, I did the US conversion :-) Prices based on ?0.96/litre for LOL...This unit problem is a real pita, as long as you are in your area/country it doesn't matter, all use the same whatever units. On the Internet it is a real hazel. I use 'gvonvert' a small tool that seems to know virtually any unit, even shoe sizes are supported. ;-) This one online isn't bad, my tool misses currency conversion: http://www.convertworld.com/en > Diesel, and ?0.93/litre for Petrol. We've been over ?1/litre for > Diesel, and on ?0.99/litre for Petrol a couple of times in the past 12 > months (and boy did people get unhappy) Diesel is always about 20 cent/l cheaper over here (Germany). 0.93 GBP == 1.37 Euro 0.99 GPB == 1.46 Euro > That said, I did my MPG conversion in imperial... which actually means > my 1.8 (115) TDCi saves me more like $1520 a year over my old car (2 > litre petrol Laguna, also 115bhp) While diesel fuel is cheaper over here, taxes (calculated out of displacement and contaminant class) are more expensive, insurance is usually more expensive for diesel cars and they are new more expensive. You need to drive enough to make it cost-effective. SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' > While diesel fuel is cheaper over here, taxes (calculated out of > displacement and contaminant class) are more expensive, > insurance is usually more expensive for diesel cars and they are > new more expensive. You need to drive enough to make it > cost-effective. On the contrary, my Focus TDCi costs £110 to tax for the year - my 2 litre petrol Laguna was £170. My insurance is £50/year cheaper as well - and my Laguna was worth £500 vs my Focus worth £7000+ you want to talk about bad gas mileage. try a 2000 F250 4x4 with 44inch tires with a 7.3l diesel pushing 600hp and 1100ftlbs. thats my work truck. i get 5mpg although i can truly go anywhere. i used to get 20mpg lol. but that was before a few grand spent at the bully dog shop. :-D > > yank that TD out, and slap in a single turboed 2JZ-GTE :-D. > > with anough mods you can hit more than 1000HP [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > octane's the cheapest you can get here). 50mpg diesel vs 30mpg petrol > over 15000 miles saves me $1,266 a year... > you want to talk about bad gas mileage. try a 2000 F250 4x4 with 44inch > tires with a 7.3l diesel pushing 600hp and 1100ftlbs. thats my work > truck. i get 5mpg > although i can truly go anywhere. i used to get 20mpg lol. but that > was before a few grand spent at the bully dog shop. :-D R you American by any chance ? ;) In alt.autos.ford.focus srp@lycos.co.uk: >> you want to talk about bad gas mileage. try a 2000 F250 4x4 with 44inch >> tires with a 7.3l diesel pushing 600hp and 1100ftlbs. thats my work >> truck. i get 5mpg >> although i can truly go anywhere. i used to get 20mpg lol. but that >> was before a few grand spent at the bully dog shop. :-D > R you American by any chance ? ;) LOL...Seems like, with 5 mpg == 47 l/100km it is questionable if usual people in Europe would still be able to just afford the Internet... SignatureMichael Heiming (X-PGP-Sig > GPG-Key ID: EDD27B94) mail: echo zvpunry@urvzvat.qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/' howd you guess > > you want to talk about bad gas mileage. try a 2000 F250 4x4 with 44inch > > tires with a 7.3l diesel pushing 600hp and 1100ftlbs. thats my work [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > R you American by any chance ? ;) |
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